Floyd should push for 154 and 10 oz. gloves and drop the OST

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  • Haglerwins
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    #51
    Originally posted by shogunn
    isnt 50/50 EQUAL to each fighter? everyone has said thats a FAIR deal. Manny also agreed to it. Bad point again.

    Thanks to ignoring the rest of the post. Like explaining why you said it was difficult for Floyd having to agree at 147 for a welterweight bout.
    No. That's a concession by Floyd. It's not a bad point. There's a good argument for at least 55/45 Floyd. He didn't get what he wanted he settled.

    Floyd was pushing for 60/40.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Haglerwins
      50/50 or no fight? You forgot about that? Roach wasn't taking any tail end deal.

      Floyd is a big welter now. I know he's a big baby too, but I wouldn't be surprised if making 147 isn't as easy as before. I'm not saying he'd struggle mightily but he couldn't make 144.
      oh ****, are you telling us now that Floyd isnt a welterweight anymore? but now a Jr Middleweight?? And he just came off a fight against a lightweight. Jr Middleweight vs Lightweight....

      ouch youre making floyd look bad by the minute.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Haglerwins
        No. That's a concession by Floyd. It's not a bad point. There's a good argument for at least 55/45 Floyd. He didn't get what he wanted he settled.
        Manny ALSO settled, he wanted 60/40. But since youre seeing things only in Floyds view, I expect nothing less.

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          #54
          Originally posted by shogunn
          oh ****, are you telling us now that Floyd isnt a welterweight anymore? but now a Jr Middleweight?? And he just came off a fight against a lightweight. Jr Middleweight vs Lightweight....

          ouch youre making floyd look bad by the minute.
          I don't care, I'm not a Floyd fan really. I'm trying to be fair. There's way too many assumptions going into all this criticism. "OMGz he was trying to screw Marquez from the jump"...how do we know?

          It's fact Floyd is big now... so no comment.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Haglerwins
            And btw fighting with 10 oz. gloves at 147 is within the rules.

            They're fighting for the WBO's welterweight belt, right?

            WEIGHT OF THE GLOVES

            From Mini Flyweight to Welterweight, eight (8) ounce gloves shall be used.

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              #56
              Originally posted by shogunn
              Manny ALSO settled, he wanted 60/40. But since youre seeing things only in Floyds view, I expect nothing less.
              Manny could've wanted 60/40 but he didn't deserve it. His biggest fight that he just had only beat Floyd's by a couple hundred thousand buys. Plus Floyd did much better in all business with common opponents.

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                #57
                Originally posted by gopi11
                They're fighting for the WBO's welterweight belt, right?

                WEIGHT OF THE GLOVES

                From Mini Flyweight to Welterweight, eight (8) ounce gloves shall be used.

                http://www.wbo-int.com/public/org/regulations.htm
                They're not fighting for the belt.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Haglerwins
                  I don't care, I'm not a Floyd fan really. I'm trying to be fair. There's way too many assumptions going into all this criticism. "OMGz he was trying to screw Marquez from the jump"...how do we know?

                  It's fact Floyd is big now... so no comment.
                  how do we know? because he cheated the scales. And, uhh yeah floyd is big now so he cant fight welterweights.

                  Make a thread and announce to everyone that Floyd is a jr middleweight draining himself to welterweight. From what we hear on this forum, 147 is floyds WALKING weight. but Id like to see the responses youd get.

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                    #59
                    read this

                    Promoter balked at blood testing for Mosley in 2008
                    By J. Michael Falgoust, USA TODAY
                    Just last year, Golden Boy Promotions was against blood testing when one of its fighters, Shane Mosley, was asked to submit to it for a fight in Las Vegas.
                    Mosley, who admitted to taking designer steroids in 2003 inadvertently before a fight with Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya, consented to any form of drug testing before facing Zab Judah but the promoter objected.

                    Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer told AP at the time that he'd consent to whatever testing that was required by Nevada State Athletic Commission and nothing more. The NSAC tests urine before and after fights but not blood at random like the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

                    A proposed March 13 superfight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather has fallen through over Olympic-style drug testing. Mayweather wanted the Filipino to accept random blood testing by USADA. Pacquiao agreed to three tests, including two before their bout.

                    "Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one."

                    Judah wanted testing immediately on Mosley as well as right before and after the bout. Judah was injured before the fight could take place and it was cancelled.

                    source:http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...oodtests_N.htm
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Haglerwins
                      They're not fighting for the belt.


                      Just for ****s and giggles then?

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