Floyd should push for 154 and 10 oz. gloves and drop the OST

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  • ThePunchingBag
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    #41
    Originally posted by Haglerwins
    Nobody said Marquez had to be 144. That's the limit. If Floyd walks around at 160+ and has to make 144, that's different.
    No one said Mayweather had to sign the contract for 144. If he thought he'd be weight drained at 144 he shouldn't have signed the contract.

    Floyd didn't even try to make the stipulated weight. He basically said "FCK the bloated ass Lightweight, I want to fight where it's comfortable".

    The guy has no shame.

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      #42
      Originally posted by shogunn
      no, because you threw out a blanket statement without having to explain your 1 sideness you were reffering to.

      Floyd got what he wanted aside from his unreasonable demands for same day blood test. But some how him not being at 154 and 10 oz gloves are at a disadvantage for floyd who is the self proclaimed best welterweight?
      Floyd got what he wanted? He settled on the date, the money, the penalty stipulation (he didn't have to agree to this and did it without blinking), the weight and the gloves, knowing Pac pulls out if he primadonnas on any of it.

      Here's what I bet he thought. Since he bent over for all of that, Manny would at least do random OST.

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        #43
        Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
        No one said Mayweather had to sign the contract for 144. If he thought he'd be weight drained at 144 he shouldn't have signed the contract.

        Floyd didn't even try to make the stipulated weight. He basically said "FCK the bloated ass Lightweight, I want to fight where it's comfortable".

        The guy has no shame.
        He clearly didn't. It's only days before the fight where he starts looking drained. he clearly tried to make 144. He finally out grew that Jr. Welter body. As he boasted before the layoff how he could still make it.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Haglerwins
          If Top Rank and Team Pac won't let him have peace of mind on the testing and he really feels he might be dealing with someone holding an unfair advantage, he should pull out of the OST argument and do this to level it back out.

          This fight will never happen as it is right now, so fk it, I'm saying it.


          This is one way of Floyd saying, "I'm ****in scared to lose that ****load of money. Don't **** this one up Richard and Oscar! You too Al, Leo and my ****ty dad! You said this ploy's gonna work, it's now backfiring on our asses!!!

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            #45
            Originally posted by Haglerwins
            Floyd got what he wanted? He settled on the date, the money, the penalty stipulation (he didn't have to agree to this and did it without blinking), the weight and the gloves, knowing Pac pulls out if he primadonnas on any of it.

            Here's what I bet he thought. Since he bent over for all of that, Manny would at least do random OST.
            Floyd is bending over for agreeing to typical welterweight fight terms?

            I know he's used to fighting Lightweights and Jr. WW's instead of true WW's, but none of Manny's terms were abnormal for a WW fight.

            Asking for OST is unprecedented in all of Boxing history.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
              Floyd is bending over for agreeing to typical welterweight fight terms?

              I know he's used to fighting Lightweights and Jr. WW's instead of true WW's, but none of Manny's terms were abnormal for a WW fight.

              Asking for OST is unprecedented in all of Boxing history.
              So is 10 mil per pound or fraction thereof over weight. Remember, he didn't ask for OST like he did according to Arum until that penalty stip got done.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Haglerwins
                Floyd got what he wanted? He settled on the date, the money, the penalty stipulation (he didn't have to agree to this and did it without blinking), the weight and the gloves, knowing Pac pulls out if he primadonnas on any of it.

                Here's what I bet he thought. Since he bent over for all of that, Manny would at least do random OST.
                He got his name first on the card, which is typical for someone as bitchy A list actor in Hollywood wants first listing.

                Im glad you pointed out he settled on the money, becuase apparently Manny didnt also?????? news to me

                And he agreed on weight? wtf is that **** about. Isnt floyd a welterweight? or he doesnt fight welterweights? Next youre gonna tell us Floyd agreed to wear shorts and boxing shoes during teh match.

                Are tehse really harsh demands floyd gave in to. Money, weight, date. haha. Talk about reaching

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                  Floyd is bending over for agreeing to typical welterweight fight terms?

                  I know he's used to fighting Lightweights and Jr. WW's instead of true WW's, but none of Manny's terms were abnormal for a WW fight.

                  Asking for OST is unprecedented in all of Boxing history.
                  And btw fighting with 10 oz. gloves at 147 is within the rules.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by shogunn
                    He got his name first on the card, which is typical for someone as bitchy A list actor in Hollywood wants first listing.

                    Im glad you pointed out he settled on the money, becuase apparently Manny didnt also?????? news to me

                    And he agreed on weight? wtf is that **** about. Isnt floyd a welterweight? or he doesnt fight welterweights? Next youre gonna tell us Floyd agreed to wear shorts and boxing shoes during teh match.
                    50/50 or no fight? You forgot about that? Roach wasn't taking any tail end deal.

                    Floyd is a big welter now. I know he's a big baby too, but I wouldn't be surprised if making 147 isn't as easy as before. I'm not saying he'd struggle mightily but he couldn't make 144.
                    Last edited by Haglerwins; 12-25-2009, 06:44 AM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Haglerwins
                      50/50 or no fight? You forgot about that? Roach wasn't taking any tail end deal.
                      isnt 50/50 EQUAL to each fighter? everyone has said thats a FAIR deal. Manny also agreed to it. Bad point again.

                      Thanks to ignoring the rest of the post. Like explaining why you said it was difficult for Floyd having to agree at 147 for a welterweight bout.

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