Comments Thread For: Bob Arum Blasts The US Anti Doping Agency

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iv not seen that, you got a link. but even still, if its good enough for everybody else, its good enough for mayweather.

The link has been posted a million times these past couple days. I'll look for it for you. Then maybe you'll let this silly argument go.

[IMDAZED]

iv not seen that, you got a link. but even still, if its good enough for everybody else, its good enough for mayweather.

“Most states don’t test for steroids,” says Dr. Margaret Goodman, former Nevada Chief Ringside Physician and Chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board. “In Nevada, we test fighters on championship cards. In New Jersey, they test every fighter for steroids. If we’d do what’s done in the Olympics or what the World Anti-Doping Agency recommends – sporadically test them during training – that would really be the best way. But if you check them right before or after a fight, they’ll test negative. Boxers are just as smart as anyone else and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to go online and look at how long a certain drug stays in your system.”

[Ray*]

iv not seen that, you got a link. but even still, if its good enough for everybody else, its good enough for mayweather.

If its good enough to make sure boxing is clean then its good enough for boxing. If its good enough for Usain bolt to go through it then its good enough for both Pacquiao and Mayweather.

[Ray*]

“Most states don’t test for steroids,” says Dr. Margaret Goodman, former Nevada Chief Ringside Physician and Chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board. “In Nevada, we test fighters on championship cards. In New Jersey, they test every fighter for steroids. If we’d do what’s done in the Olympics or what the World Anti-Doping Agency recommends – sporadically test them during training – that would really be the best way. But if you check them right before or after a fight, they’ll test negative. Boxers are just as smart as anyone else and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to go online and look at how long a certain drug stays in your system.”

Am telling you this guys are not boxing fans, Face them with facts from a world renown doctor who work on fight night in big fights and they would twist it the other way.

If that lady goodman think the test isnt as good as the olympic testing and Team Pac want leaway on how they get tested then something is up, Especially with all the excuses that i have heard over the last 24 hours.

Who are we trying to defend??? The cleaning up of boxing or the hiding of the truth in Pac??

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Am telling you this guys are not boxing fans, Face them with facts from a world renown doctor who work on fight night in big fights and they would twist it the other way.

If that lady goodman think the test isnt as good as the olympic testing and Team Pac want leaway on how they get tested then something is up, Especially with all the excuses that i have heard over the last 24 hours.

Who are we trying to defend??? The cleaning up of boxing or the hiding of the truth in Pac??

Funny how they never want to respond to that quote from Goodman.

[Boxing's Truth]

Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud
By Josh Slagter | The Grand Rapids Press
December 24, 2009, 11:55AM

The notion of bad blood interfering with the negotiations between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao's representatives wasn't far fetched. Neither camp gets along with the other.

But with Tuesday's announcement from Mayweather's camp that Pacquiao has refused the Olympic-style random drug testing, tensions have reached a new high.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission uses urine tests before and after fights to check for steroids other and performance-enhancing drugs. A blood test is required to earn a one-year license to fight in Nevada, too.

Mayweather's camp is demanding the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency conduct random blood tests during training. Pacqiuao's promoter, Bob Aurm, has said his fighter has agreed to be blood tested three times: in January, 30 days before the fight and then right after the fight.

Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean.

"There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”

Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested.

“That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”

Dr. Gary Wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List and Methods sub-committee, supported Tygar's position.

“The fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” Wadler told Yahoo! Sports. “It would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage."

And to Arum's notion that Pacquaio will feel "weakened" by getting his blood drawn close to the fight? Victor Conte, the founder of Bay-Area Laboratory Cooperative (BALCO), said the tests would have no physical effect on either fighter.

“That amount would be less than one-half of one percent (of the total blood in the body),” Conte told Yahoo! Sports. “It’s not going to have any effect, the drawing of blood. Could it have some mental effect? That’s the only down side of that. It’s certainly not going to have any physical effect, giving blood before a fight.”

The implementation of drug testing remains the only sticking point on negotiations for a fight that could break all of boxing's revenue records.

Will either side blink in time for the fight to happen? It doesn't sound like Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe plans to back off on his demands.

"They're backed up against the wall. Either they're going to step up to the plate and do this, or my guy's not stepping up into the ring and fighting," Ellerbe said on "The Huge Show" on Wednesday. "If you have nothing to hide, why not subject yourself to this testing?"

E-mail Josh Slagter at jslagter@grpress.com and follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JoshSlagter

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Hello? Where are all the debators now? Hello??

**knocks on screen**

[cortdawg25]

“most states don’t test for steroids,” says dr. Margaret goodman, former nevada chief ringside physician and chairman of the nevada state athletic commission medical advisory board. “in nevada, we test fighters on championship cards. In new jersey, they test every fighter for steroids. if we’d do what’s done in the olympics or what the world anti-doping agency recommends – sporadically test them during training – that would really be the best way. but if you check them right before or after a fight, they’ll test negative. Boxers are just as smart as anyone else and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to go online and look at how long a certain drug stays in your system.”

dammmnnnnnn!!!!! This is getting ugly for pacman!

[jaestix1]

Um not really! he's just stating facts. Floyd and his team are trying to create all this propaganda. Pac has already agreed to tests but Floyd wants to be able to do the tests personally himself.

you're either joking or just a ****** *******. lets hope its the latter

[cybertiledude]

lmao.. Are you even listening to yourself??? WTF??? Mayweather is going to come to the phillipines 3am in the morning to administer a drug test on Pacquiao..........Lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

hahahaha! Ya because money is a trained medical technician in his down time! You pac suckers sound more ridiculous every time you open your mouth.