Comments Thread For: Bob Arum Blasts The US Anti Doping Agency

[IMDAZED]

so if its never been good enough, all results in boxing are void then?

What is the relevance? Have Mosley's wins been overturned? NO. The bottom line is that this is better testing so why is there an issue with it?

[FightFreak]

No am basing my opinion on Pac refusing to take a random drug test, If my P4P best boxer in the world doesnt have anything to hide then he would do it for 40 million dollars.

Again, the Pac camp is not refusing random drug tests. They just want certain limits to the test so they don't come to him while he's sleeping or on fight day. Their position is not as irreconcilable with the GB/May camps as *****s here are making it out to be. What can they find out from a test a week before the fight that they can't with a test done right after the fight? They're playing mindgames and questioning his legacy, and you know it. And what is their basis? The word of the "greatest trainer of all time". And you guys are buying it hook, line and sinker.

[IMDAZED]

Again, the Pac camp is not refusing random drug tests. They just want certain limits to the test so they don't come to him while he's sleeping or on fight day. Their position is not as irreconcilable with the GB/May camps as *****s here are making it out to be. What can they find out from a test a week before the fight that they can't with a test done right after the fight? They're playing mindgames and questioning his legacy, and you know it. And what is their basis? The word of the "greatest trainer of all time". And you guys are buying it hook, line and sinker.

In other words, they don't want "Olympic Style testing" they want "Pacquiao style testing." Like I said - that's fine. Team Mayweather should ask for an extra $10million for every test Pacquiao misses/refuses to take. Sounds fair.

[big_james10]

Why won't Floyd agree to let PAC take the test with the same people who test NBA ,MLB, and NFL players ?

Common now,7 random blood tests and 12 urine test? That's crazy.

You didn't read what Arum said. He said he wanted the agency that took the tests for the NBA, MLB and NFL to take the tests because they would AGREE to ONLY to take the tests when Arum and Pac wanted the tests taken, which was 30 days prior to the fight. They refuse to have the test taken within 30 days of the fight. The U.S. Anti Doping Agency would take random tests within that 30 day period.

The rules of the Anti Doping Agency do not say they WILL take seven random blood tests and 12 urine tests. It says the athlete may be SUBJECT to 7 blood tests and 12 urine tests prior to the event. I never heard of an Olympic athlete who had blood drawn within 24 hours of their final contest.

Under Arum's scenario, Pac could start using illegal substances right after the 30 day blood test and take them up to five days before the fight and the substances would be out of his system by the time the post-fight blood test is taken. Illegal performance enhancing substances will only stay in your system for a few days, just like most illegal drugs (with the exception of marijauana). That is why Floyd's camp is insisting on the random tests.

[big_james10]

Again, the Pac camp is not refusing random drug tests. They just want certain limits to the test so they don't come to him while he's sleeping or on fight day. Their position is not as irreconcilable with the GB/May camps as *****s here are making it out to be. What can they find out from a test a week before the fight that they can't with a test done right after the fight? They're playing mindgames and questioning his legacy, and you know it. And what is their basis? The word of the "greatest trainer of all time". And you guys are buying it hook, line and sinker.

I doubt if any Olympic athlete has been awakened out of their sleep in the middle of the night to take a blood test. That is a ridiculous statement. Also, there is no history of any athlete having blood drawn the day of a major contest. Also, to answer your question, performance-enhancing drugs only stay in your system for a few days. Pac could stop taking them a week before the fight and still have physical advantage.

[shade darkar]

What is the relevance? Have Mosley's wins been overturned? NO. The bottom line is that this is better testing so why is there an issue with it?

who says its better? the relevance is that if your saying that the testing done to date isnt good enough, then all results are not good enough. and even if it is better there is an issue there because the testing done already has been good enough for every other pro boxer. why should the rules change because mayweather says so?

[IMDAZED]

who says its better? the relevance is that if your saying that the testing done to date isnt good enough, then all results are not good enough. and even if it is better there is an issue there because the testing done already has been good enough for every other pro boxer. why should the rules change because mayweather says so?

The Head of the NSAC says it's better.

[FightFreak]

In other words, they don't want "Olympic Style testing" they want "Pacquiao style testing." Like I said - that's fine. Team Mayweather should ask for an extra $10million for every test Pacquiao misses/refuses to take. Sounds fair.

Pac won't take a bull**** demand like that, so it's as good as wishing for the fight NOT to happen. This is probably what Floyd's camp wants, particularly his dad. But I can't believe boxing fans would fall for their bull****.

Devise less intrusive methods and times of tests to ensure that the fighters don't take drugs. I think that's something the camps and experts can work on.

[shade darkar]

The Head of the NSAC says it's better.

iv not seen that, you got a link. but even still, if its good enough for everybody else, its good enough for mayweather.

[FightFreak]

I doubt if any Olympic athlete has been awakened out of their sleep in the middle of the night to take a blood test. That is a ridiculous statement. Also, there is no history of any athlete having blood drawn the day of a major contest.

So you are an expert on random testing now? Gimme a break. Roach has already asked the USADA about it and they refused to stipulate any time or date limitations on the tests. Which means they can and will do it if they stay true to making the tests truly "random".

QUOTE=big_james10;7065071]Also, to answer your question, performance-enhancing drugs only stay in your system for a few days. Pac could stop taking them a week before the fight and still have physical advantage.[/QUOTE]

Again, the Pac camp has already indicated they will accept tests, just not a week into the fight.