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  • sceneboxing
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    #131
    Originally posted by Ray`
    LOL, Ok the test isnt done by Mayweather and the rules of USADA isnt set by Mayweather, The USADA are the ones who tells you how many times they're going to test you not Mayweather and they do there test randomly.

    Pac can fight foreman for 8 million and retire and lose out on 40 million also so that tells you Pac need this fight as much as Mayweather does.
    No ****, that is what I just said. What is your point?

    And no, Pacquiao doesn't need this fight as much as Mayweather. Anybody with a brain can see that. He isn't the one in debt. In reality, nobody actually needs this fight except Floyd (for the money) and the fans. Pacquiao's legacy is already set and he can retire and go to politics if he wants to. He might be branded as a cheater and a ducker for avoiding the tests, but he can walk away if he wants.
    Last edited by sceneboxing; 12-24-2009, 11:34 AM.

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    • sceneboxing
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      #132
      Originally posted by Ray`
      But the damage would have been done, Saying they could do the test after the fight is even worse, Again both fighters are subjected to the same test not just one fighter, So my point is why duck a test that your opponent is willing to take if you dont have anything to hide.
      He isn't ducking testing. He does not like how Mayweather's team is trying to set all the rules and regulations around the testing.

      Both sides need to find common ground.

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      • El_Cholo
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        #133
        he is right. this is getting out of control. anything to quench Mayweather lust of demands.

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        • Ray*
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          #134
          Originally posted by sceneboxing
          He isn't ducking testing. He does not like how Mayweather's team is trying to set all the rules and regulations around the testing.

          Both sides need to find common ground.


          I agree both team need to find a common ground but the rules and regulation isnt set by Team Mayweather but its set by the anti-doping agency, Now Team Pac wants leaway on the testing which they're not going to get with the anti-doping agency.

          Thats why Arum want them to bring in a different Agency who has more relax testing procedure but the problem is the number one testing agency is the the people who administer the olympic style test which turn out to be???

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            #135
            Originally posted by sceneboxing
            No ****, that is what I just said. What is your point?

            And no, Pacquiao doesn't need this fight as much as Mayweather. Anybody with a brain can see that. He isn't the one in debt. In reality, nobody actually needs this fight except Floyd (for the money) and the fans. Pacquiao's legacy is already set and he can retire and go to politics if he wants to. He might be branded as a cheater and a ducker for avoiding the tests, but he can walk away if he wants.
            Of course he can walk away if he want but then there would alway be a ' over his wins, Just like Margarito "win" over cotto.

            And yes Pac needs this fight just as much as Mayweather- Money-wise and legacy-wise, Legacy wise he has beaten shot fighter and drain some, He has never fought a prime fighter and win in great fashion so no Pac's legacy is sealed, Just like Mayweather's legacy isnt sealed both of them are in the same boat and anyone trying to pull a wool over it is just deceiving themselves.

            If Pac beat Mayweather he would accomplish in one fight what he has accomplish in his last 10 fights combined, And if Mayweather beat Pac he would have done something he hasnt done before (Beat the P4P number 1 guy)

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            • sceneboxing
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              #136
              Originally posted by Ray`
              I agree both team need to find a common ground but the rules and regulation isnt set by Team Mayweather but its set by the anti-doping agency, Now Team Pac wants leaway on the testing which they're not going to get with the anti-doping agency.

              Thats why Arum want them to bring in a different Agency who has more relax testing procedure but the problem is the number one testing agency is the the people who administer the olympic style test which turn out to be???
              That isn't what I meant. Much like how they have to agree on the boxing ring, gloves, etc, Mayweather is choosing who will conduct the drug tests.

              First he wanted drug tests. Both sides talked it over and agreed. Then Mayweather says he wants it done by the USADA. That is what Pacquiao and his team do not like, that Floyd is choosing who does it because Pacquiao's team does not think it is necessary to do that much testing throughout camp and they feel it might disrupt their training. Just because Mayweather is going to be taking the exact same tests under the exact same schedule doesn't make it okay with them.

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              • sceneboxing
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                #137
                Originally posted by Ray`
                Of course he can walk away if he want but then there would alway be a ' over his wins, Just like Margarito "win" over cotto.

                And yes Pac needs this fight just as much as Mayweather- Money-wise and legacy-wise, Legacy wise he has beaten shot fighter and drain some, He has never fought a prime fighter and win in great fashion so no Pac's legacy is sealed, Just like Mayweather's legacy isnt sealed both of them are in the same boat and anyone trying to pull a wool over it is just deceiving themselves.

                If Pac beat Mayweather he would accomplish in one fight what he has accomplish in his last 10 fights combined, And if Mayweather beat Pac he would have done something he hasnt done before (Beat the P4P number 1 guy)
                Wrong.

                Maybe YOU and posters on a boxing forum of all places think he beat "shot fighter and drain some", and that "he has never fought a prime fighter", but nobody cares for your opinion. It is not only a ****** and wrong claim, it just isn't what the public cares about and it's not what the Hall of Fame cares about.

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                • FLYBOY
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                  #138
                  wow Bob Arum did not do his fighter good by mentioning how Pacquiao was affected negatively by the blood test in the Morales fight. LOL I guess if you test negative, you lose the fight and get outboxed by Morales! hmmm.... very fishy very fishy!

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                  • jovin619
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                    #139
                    You know what with all of this bullcraft going on i won't blame pacquiao for backing out cause its looks like the mays are creating there own rules and not the nevada anymore. plus pacquiao already has billions of pesos that he and his family and future grandchildren to spend for the rest of there life. plus he already has his own legacy. people might call him as a guilty roid user but thats just a fact and not proven and plus he was never tested possitive on all of his drug test at first place anyway. If i was pac i should sue may sr for such accusation without prove and he can use a reason like loss income from sponsors or future sponsors, pacquiao will take all of his money and be more debt hahahahaha......

                    Pacqiao don't need this fight just the fans and mays that needs it.

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                    • FightFreak
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Ray`
                      Of course he can walk away if he want but then there would alway be a ' over his wins, Just like Margarito "win" over cotto.

                      And yes Pac needs this fight just as much as Mayweather- Money-wise and legacy-wise, Legacy wise he has beaten shot fighter and drain some, He has never fought a prime fighter and win in great fashion so no Pac's legacy is sealed, Just like Mayweather's legacy isnt sealed both of them are in the same boat and anyone trying to pull a wool over it is just deceiving themselves.

                      If Pac beat Mayweather he would accomplish in one fight what he has accomplish in his last 10 fights combined, And if Mayweather beat Pac he would have done something he hasnt done before (Beat the P4P number 1 guy)
                      Of course he can walk away if he want but then there would alway be a ' over his wins, Just like Margarito "win" over cotto.

                      Unlike Margarito, there isn't even an iota of issue in Pac's past fights and drug tests. You're basing everything on the word of Floyd's crackhead dad, which just shows how objective a fan you are, Ray'. Good for you.

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