It's isn't a question of whether Pac will take the test, because he will

[COACH WEBB]

Very good post, I'm with you on this.

Regardless if Pac is on roids or not, floyd is definiately hurting the sport by doing this. And in fact, like others have said, you would be shocked to find out how many guys are on roids. If you are to believe some people's words, probably 80-90% of boxers use illegal substances. If that's the case, you would get to the point of the MLB which is who really cares at that point?

Now, I understand how someone like floyd could want to have more strict tests in place. But I think this is entirely the wrong way of doing it. You don't do it right before the biggest fight on the planet, imo.

he is hurting the sport, but didn't you just made this thread?

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340525

the biggest fight on the planet is the CORRECT time to do it.

[Juggernaut]

Boxing fans are mostly ******ed thats why this sport is in a coma for awhile. Floyd is just posturing and being an @ssh0le or his really a ducker? When somebody accuss a person of a "crime", he should produce "evidence" of the guilt first and not the other way around by making Pac's prove his innocence first. Morons who believe Floyd Sr. libelous statement should be compared to a street drunk who saw superman change costume behind the alley beside the trash bin and flown away after that.

I wouldn't think Floyd is ducking (because I don't think a person of Floyd's talent shouldn't be afraid of Pacquiao's style) but more getting every advantage he can. But I wonder if Floyd knows what he's getting into?

[nelsoncm]

Pac is making HIMSELF look bad................

You'll see who's really making himself look really bad after all this is settled.

[MindBat]

It's really a question of when both will take the tests.

People here on NSB are so ignorant and they come to conclusions so quickly about this or that I wouldn't be surprised if many of you really believe that we didn't land on the moon or the U.S. Government took down the towers. Pacquiao is willing to take the test, however Arum and Roach are speaking for him and kinda making him look bad out of just being immature and expressing their hatred for Floyd

Now whether Manny is on illegal substances is still in question, but the same can be said about Floyd and as a matter of fact any boxer/MMA fighter that ever fought in Nevada with the assumption that the NSAC's testing is not very effective that it's practically useless. And all in all, it will question Boxing, MMA, and NSAC's drug testing forever if either Floyd or Manny is caught with illegal substances through the proposed Olympics Drug Testing. Sure Floyd says he willing to give blood and comply but words and actions are different

Though do boxers really have skeletons in their closet that Mayweather is blindly exposing that could hurt not only the image of the boxer in question but the entire sport of Boxing? If Manny or Floyd is caught with illegal substance that means every boxer that has ever went through NSAC testing are in question. It's all "Schrodinger's Cat" from here on out.

Mosley was subpoenaed in the BALCO investigation and testified before a federal grand jury in 2003. He has always denied using steroids and has never tested positive.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...#ixzz0aYq8T2N4

[ИATAS]

To add to the thread:

"Manny says, 'I'm not going to let them take my blood whenever they want when I'm getting seriously ready for a fight. They can take all the urine they want,' " Arum said. "My fighter feels uncomfortable with that and feels that would weaken him. I know if I deal with an organization that deals with pro athletes we can agree to the protocol."

Arum said that USADA's testing procedures would not allow it to assure Pacquiao that he would at least not be blood tested during the week of the fight or even on the day of the fight.

"He'll give them blood but he wants to know it will stop at a particular point," Arum said. "He wants the fight. But he's a proud guy. He won't be pushed around by this guy [Mayweather]."

ESPN source

That seems to be the hold up. Pac doesn't want to give blood right before the fight and the day of the fight, but will after the fight. What is wrong with that? If Pacquiao were tested 8 days before the fight, and also a couple times during training camp, then again the day after the fight, what is the problem?

[p4p-champ]

Like I said in my original post, Floyd says he wants it, but is he himself willing to comply? I'm willing to skydive, but don't be surprised if I'm not enthusiastic when I'm on that plane.

He already stated he will. Manny on the other hand is afraid of RANDOM drug testing. Kinda odd, don't you think?

I've never accused Pacman of taking illegal supplements but that **** is fishy as hell. There is just no excuse for it.

[ИATAS]

he is hurting the sport, but didn't you just made this thread?

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340525

the biggest fight on the planet is the CORRECT time to do it.

Not leading up to the fight for a single contract.

My thread talks about the need of a boxing commission so this sort of **** wont happen. This is madness and confirms that boxing is so chaotic and desperately needs someone to oversee the sport and regular rules, etc. are in place, rather than what we have now (state by state rules/laws, all types of crazy contracts/demands, ****ty judges, etc.).

[Juggernaut]

He already stated he will. Manny on the other hand is afraid of RANDOM drug testing. Kinda odd, don't you think?

I've never accused Pacman of taking illegal supplements but that **** is fishy as hell. There is just no excuse for it.

Ok, read my post AGAIN. I said Floyd did say he will, Though will he?

[ИATAS]

He already stated he will. Manny on the other hand is afraid of RANDOM drug testing. Kinda odd, don't you think?

I've never accused Pacman of taking illegal supplements but that **** is fishy as hell. There is just no excuse for it.

see my post above yours. He isn't afraid of taking random tests, he doesn't want to give blood the day of the fight and just before the fight.

[Chuckguy]

Very good post, I'm with you on this.

Regardless if Pac is on roids or not, floyd is definiately hurting the sport by doing this. And in fact, like others have said, you would be shocked to find out how many guys are on roids. If you are to believe some people's words, probably 80-90% of boxers use illegal substances. If that's the case, you would get to the point of the MLB which is who really cares at that point?

Now, I understand how someone like floyd could want to have more strict tests in place. But I think this is entirely the wrong way of doing it. You don't do it right before the biggest fight on the planet, imo.

I have to strongly disagree with you Nats
I think this should be done from now on. We need to either legalize Peds and Roids or demand more effient testing. Its an eye opener just like the margs wraps were
Im not saying that pac is cheating but just that the testing needs to be more efficient.