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  • MOREBASS
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    #121
    Originally posted by COACH WEBB
    if it were Floyd with those excuses........
    Yeah? So what.

    Floyd Mayweather has to reap what he sews. He built this 'bad guy persona' and it has earned him millions of dollars. But not one should be shocked that everyone is going to scrutinize every move he makes.

    Stop acting like he's some kind of victim here.

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    • El Jesus
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      #122
      Originally posted by MOREBASS
      LOL. So now its primitive?


      It might not be as thorough as the USADA's testing, but my point was that both can and have been comprimised.

      Period.

      What's funny is that you consider yourself some kind of Boxing Fan Appointer.


      **** outta here with that bull****. :****you:

      Whats funny is how you didnt have a problem with the idea that cotto had to be forced to drop to 145, and then Roach himself awknowledges he did it to take something away from Cotto mentally, that isnt looked down upon at all. Let alone fighting for a ****ing welterweight title fight under the actual weight limit.

      But something like random drug testing, which is what EVERY sport needs for the sake of keeping things fair, is something you are against. IMDAZED is 100 percent correct in his statements and he is no floyd apoligist.

      The reality is that cycling is just as grueling a workout as boxing, and yes they do wake you up at 3am to try to catch you slippin, and NO, nobody gets past that test, which is why that american got caught in 2006. The sport needs this and if it takes the biggest stage to set a precedent, then so be it.

      Its reasonable for the olympics, the biggest stage in all of worldwide sports, its big enough and reasonable enough for ours. If you dispute this, you are defending the fighter and not the sport.

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      • El Jesus
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        #123
        Originally posted by MOREBASS
        Yeah? So what.

        Floyd Mayweather has to reap what he sews. He built this 'bad guy persona' and it has earned him millions of dollars. But not one should be shocked that everyone is going to scrutinize every move he makes.

        Stop acting like he's some kind of victim here.
        I wouldnt call floyd a victim, but hes not in the wrong neither.

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        • fatherpain
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          #124
          What team pacquiao should do

          Agree to the testing pre or post fight and if the results come back clean then mayweather pays him $10 million. If he's dirty then he owes mayweather $10 million. I'd be willing to bet team mayweather backs off that wager and their demands.

          Tom

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          • andotsky
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            #125
            Originally posted by MOREBASS
            I think this is the gist of the problem that they have with this testing.


            Why all of a sudden should they have to do something that has never been done before, without any factual reason to do so?

            I would understand the concern if:

            1) Manny Pacquiao hadn't passed ever single drug test he's taken

            2) The NSAC's drug testing has been in question


            But the basis of the argument was on an assumption, that a fighter could not possibly be performing the way that he has per Floyd Mayweather Sr.

            i strongly agree.

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            • MOREBASS
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              #126
              Originally posted by El Jesus
              Whats funny is how you didnt have a problem with the idea that cotto had to be forced to drop to 145, and then Roach himself awknowledges he did it to take something away from Cotto mentally, that isnt looked down upon at all. Let alone fighting for a ****ing welterweight title fight under the actual weight limit.

              But something like random drug testing, which is what EVERY sport needs for the sake of keeping things fair, is something you are against. IMDAZED is 100 percent correct in his statements and he is no floyd apoligist.

              The reality is that cycling is just as grueling a workout as boxing, and yes they do wake you up at 3am to try to catch you slippin, and NO, nobody gets past that test, which is why that american got caught in 2006. The sport needs this and if it takes the biggest stage to set a precedent, then so be it.

              Its reasonable for the olympics, the biggest stage in all of worldwide sports, its big enough and reasonable enough for ours. If you dispute this, you are defending the fighter and not the sport.
              That's cool, but changing the style of testing should be across the board, and not part of fight negotiations.

              I don't disagree with the testing. By all means, for the safety of everyone involved, make sure everyone is playing fair.

              Its the means that this style of testing is being brought up.

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              • El Jesus
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                #127
                Originally posted by MOREBASS
                That's cool, but changing the style of testing should be across the board, and not part of fight negotiations.

                I don't disagree with the testing. By all means, for the safety of everyone involved, make sure everyone is playing fair.

                Its the means that this style of testing is being brought up.
                Changing the style of the testing for a fight of this magnatude removes all doubt in the ring, and after the fight happens. Like i said, manny and his team have gotten whatever they wanted for the last 4 years, this is negotiating, mayweahter agreed to the new date, 10million per pound overweight (which is ****ing insane), manny agrees to his test and possibly negotiates when they take blood.

                Its a negotiation, while other morons would suggest mayweather is trying to get out of the fight, which is ****** since mayweather has 0 history of pulling out of fights when they are this close. He also doesnt make negotiations very difficult. Like i said, Manny has had every ****ing advantage he could possibly have from money, to weight, this and that, this is the one time hell be dealing with a fighter who is on his level of popularity and leverage. He has to give in at some point to the date that blood gets drawn.

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                • fightfan_79
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Really? Why don't you argue with Margaret Goodman since she seems to disagree with you. Maybe you can tell her all about your boxing knowledge and how she doesn't know squat. Read EACH word carefully and let it soak in - I even bolded some for your dumb a**:

                  “Most states don’t test for steroids,” says Dr. Margaret Goodman, former Nevada Chief Ringside Physician and Chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board. “In Nevada, we test fighters on championship cards. In New Jersey, they test every fighter for steroids. If we’d do what’s done in the Olympics or what the World Anti-Doping Agency recommends – sporadically test them during training – that would really be the best way. But if you check them right before or after a fight, they’ll test negative. Boxers are just as smart as anyone else and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to go online and look at how long a certain drug stays in your system.”
                  End of thread.....

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                  • angelgargola
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                    #129
                    Its reasonable for the olympics, the biggest stage in all of worldwide sports, its big enough and reasonable enough for ours. If you dispute this, you are defending the fighter and not the sport.

                    well said.

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                    • angelgargola
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                      #130
                      But there's so much Pac fans here so,don't bother.

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