Is Mayweather the biggest coward in the history of Boxing????

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  • onedream722
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    #71
    Originally posted by bigdognyc
    Come on bro,,, dont be ******.... PAC could have asked Cotto to fight him at 140 where he is champ and I bet Cotto would still have fought him for the money....

    Pac is Cottos biggest payday by far.... If Pac was willing to give Cotto a shot (something Mayweather would never have) and move up to 145 why couldnt Cotto move one single pound (from his last weigh in) and stake his title???


    Again..,, catchweights are common,,,,which Mayweather did his last fight.....

    Asking a top fighter to go through hoops like a ***** for a damn rumor is downright disrespectfull and shows one is not serious in taking a fight.
    just like how morales had to come down in weight after his fight with zahir?

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    • bigdognyc
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      #72
      Originally posted by crillz
      Bold = that is exactly what Manny did when he asked for 10 million dollars for each pound overweight yet you only complaining about 1 side of the table.. asking for all those tests is just as unreasonable as asking for more money than most people see in their whole lifetime for each pound the guy comes in overweight BUT like the no bull**** kind of guy Mayweather is he said YES with no problem

      PRECEDENTS for the catch weights but no precedent of a title being on the line that applies to a certain weight limit but on the line in a catch weight bout instead, which is 100% horse ****..

      and no that is not what I'M saying, if you care to know what I think I'll tell you quick fast that I think Manny is clean 100%, that is my PERSONAL opinion but you see the difference with me and the majority of the people here is I don't mix my personal feelings with the truth of things and even though PERSONALLY I feel he's clean I just think TRUTHFULLY he should take those tests if not to kill those doubts then to at least give Floyd some more respect at the negotiating table the way Floyd gave it to him
      There is something you dont understand....

      10 million dollars is security that Mayweather doesnt cheat the scales which is did with JMM....which is reasonable according to factual track record...

      Asking Pac who has NO HISTORY OF STEROID use and demanding the strictest drug testing in the history of professional boxing on a mere rumor is unreasonable...

      I can understand this demand if Mayweather was fighting Mosley, Toney, Holyfield,,,etc... who have been caught with steroid use,,,, but someone that has tested clean time and time again????

      Seriously,,,,the agenda is clear.

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      • onedream722
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        #73
        Originally posted by bigdognyc
        There is something you dont understand....

        10 million dollars is security that Mayweather doesnt cheat the scales which is did with JMM....which is reasonable according to factual track record...

        Asking Pac who has NO HISTORY OF STEROID use and demanding the strictest drug testing in the history of professional boxing on a mere rumor is unreasonable...

        I can understand this demand if Mayweather was fighting Mosley, Toney, Holyfield,,,etc... who have been caught with steroid use,,,, but someone that has tested clean time and time again????

        Seriously,,,,the agenda is clear.
        so because he hasn't tested dirty doesn't mean he won't try this time...margarito wasn't caught cheating with handwraps till he fought mosley..so do u think nazzim richardson should of had no concern to go and watch his hand wrapping procedures?

        there is a lot of ways 'around' urine and simple drug tests....olympic style testing is most efficient and isn't absurd in a fight of this magnitude

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        • bigdognyc
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          #74
          Originally posted by onedream722
          just like how morales had to come down in weight after his fight with zahir?
          Yeah true,,, because Morales was a beast at 135...

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            #75
            Originally posted by bigdognyc
            Serious question...

            Did Leonard demand Duran to stringent drug tests????

            Did Hagler ask Hearns for EXTRA drug tests because he was scaling the devisions in a dominant fashion???

            When Tyson was knocking everyone he fought, did anyone ask to change the rules and ask him for different drug tests???


            Why then is Pac demanded to take the 3-5 blood tests (and as late as day of the fight), plus 8 urine tests, plus the regular Nevada drug tests,,,,, Just to satisy Mayweather Sr's rumors???

            IN THE HISTORY OF PROFESSIONAL BOXING THIS HAS NEVER BEEN ASKED OF A FIGHTER.... Can anyone understand that????

            This is really some bull****!!!

            PBF said because this is such a high magnitude fight he is being reasonable to ask of blood tests? How reasonable is it when no one in the history of the sport has asked the things PBF has asked of Pac?

            SRL and Duran was a high magnitude fight as well, and you are right SRL didnt ask Duran to take a test.

            PBF is damaging his legacy even further than it already is damaged. No one would side with PBF on this one.
            If Pac had ever failed a test then PBF wouldnt be accused of paranoia, and being scared of Pacs abilities.

            PBF just has to admit he thinks Pac is the greatest boxer who ever lived easily.

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            • onedream722
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              #76
              Originally posted by bigdognyc
              Yeah true,,, because Morales was a beast at 135...
              he lost at 135 then fought manny at 130...then could barely make 135 vs diaz

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              • bigdognyc
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                #77
                Originally posted by onedream722
                so because he hasn't tested dirty doesn't mean he won't try this time...margarito wasn't caught cheating with handwraps till he fought mosley..so do u think nazzim richardson should of had no concern to go and watch his hand wrapping procedures?

                there is a lot of ways 'around' urine and simple drug tests....
                LOL...now you're comparing a known cheater with Pac????

                Wow you need to stop mouth washing with Mayweather nut sack juice,,,buddy...

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by bigdognyc
                  Come on bro,,, dont be ******.... PAC could have asked Cotto to fight him at 140 where he is champ and I bet Cotto would still have fought him for the money....

                  Pac is Cottos biggest payday by far.... If Pac was willing to give Cotto a shot (something Mayweather would never have) and move up to 145 why couldnt Cotto move one single pound (from his last weigh in) and stake his title???


                  Again..,, catchweights are common,,,,which Mayweather did his last fight.....

                  Asking a top fighter to go through hoops like a ***** for a damn rumor is downright disrespectfull and shows one is not serious in taking a fight.
                  you have this fixed perception, you not thinking outside the box here and NO Cotto WOULDN'T have fought Pacquiao at 140 or for a 140 pound strap because his days there are over and what shot was Pacquiao giving Cotto? if you ask me it was COTTO giving Pacquiao a shot at winning a 7th weight championship in a fight where the weight didn't comply with the weight limit of the title on the line..

                  if you think Cotto is just a money mummy think again, he said it himself he has enough to live good for the rest of his days, businesses and all so NO he wouldn't have just taken the fight for big money as his SOLE reason, don't give me that ****..

                  and you say it's a rumor? there is no rumor about a guy going up from 106 pounds to 147 pounds and look so strong doing it, to an extent you'll say it's extraordinary but when you stop and think it's almost too unbelievable. PERSONALLY I think Pacquiao is clean which is why I want him to just say **** it and do it to crush the doubters but he doesn't want to do it on Floyd's terms, that sounds fishy to me especially when Floyd accepted his 10 Million dollar demand with no problem..

                  you telling me that it is 110% COMPLETELY out of the realm of POSSIBILITY that a guy who rose from 106 pounds up to 147 and showed no weakness along the way, no fatigue, no damage, no troubles putting on weight yo you telling me that doesn't warrant some su****ion? I'm neutral here because I respect BOTH and for ME personally I want to believe that a guy can naturally do what Manny has done but it DOES raise su****ion when you think on it, then Manny agrees to testing but not under Floyd's terms defeating the whole purpose of even agreeing..

                  in a nutshell there's more holes in Pacquiao's stance here than Floyd's because Floyd is ready and willing to accept any demand Pacquiao has however Manny is not

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                  • onedream722
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by bigdognyc
                    LOL...now you're comparing a known cheater with Pac????

                    Wow you need to stop mouth washing with Mayweather nut sack juice,,,buddy...
                    im not comparing pac to marg...if u can comprehend u can understand that....im comparing pre-fight procedures...

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                      I hate to say this but Mayweather is really trying to avoid Pacquiao. I'm really disappointed with Mayweather.

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