We all do acknowledge that Pac is not physically a WW right?

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Most JMW's are 160 and over. Floyd at LW was only 138. Thats my point. You cant have it both ways. You say you think Floyd looked huge against JMM but if you look at Floyd, he is built differently. He's all up top with tiny looking legs while Pac is built evenly all the way from head to toe. Also, like you said, Pac isnt that much bigger than he was at SFW but he clearly looks a good size bigger. Its the same about Floyd. He isnt much bigger than his early fights at WW but he looks a good size bigger. I dont think he is bigger than 152 or 153 and I honestly wouldnt be shocked if he was 150. However, I dont care much either way. I want him to be 160 because I know he will fight the guys that he 1st didnt want to fight due to his size

Sorry I meant to say JWW 140lb fighters my fault.

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put it this way...

Pac weight 145 fight night against JMM!

what would he have been eaing all those calories, thousands upon thousands of calories for, if not to shoot him above 150 for fight night against Cotto?

Because he was making 145 as a LW!

Yes, the only thing that's really changed is he doesn't cut weight. His fight night weight has remained consistent for many years. Against Oscar, for example, he was 148 on fight night, and for Marquez II, it was either 145 or 146.

I have never known him go over this weight and definitely not above 150.



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[Syf]

JMM was at SFW so thats even worst

yeah sfw, my bad.

So clearly, Pac is a natural welter now... or close to it.


Why else would he have been shoveling tons of food down as they emphasized? It was to shoot him above 150

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Yes, the only thing that's really changed is he doesn't cut weight. His fight night weight has remained consistent for many years. Against Oscar, for example, he was 148 on fight night, and for Marquez II, it was either 145 or 146.

I have never known him go over this weight and definitely not above 150.

Why was he eating more calories than ever before, then?

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JMM was at SFW so thats even worst

Marquez was 141 for the second Pacquiao fight, btw.



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Why was he eating more calories than ever before, then?

Because otherwise he would lose too much weight. I'll bet he wasn't above 150 against Cotto. My guess is around 149.



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I remember before the Hatton fight when ****m Richardson said that when he see's Pac in person he doesnt say, "how can this guy make WW", instead he says "how did this guy ever make LW".

At that same time I remember Roach saying that everyone thinks we have to gain a ton of weight to fight Hatton but the truth is that we have to come down in weight to fight at 140 so it wont be any problem and Pac will be strong

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yeah sfw, my bad.

So clearly, Pac is a natural welter now... or close to it.


Why else would he have been shoveling tons of food down as they emphasized? It was to shoot him above 150

Doesn't this prove my point that he is not if he has to eat so much to maintain a weight of 150 which JWWs easily blow up to more than over night?

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Marquez was 141 for the second Pacquiao fight, btw.

I know because I always say that people should still give Floyd more credit for that win since Floyd only started one weight class above JMM and for many years there fight night weight wasnt far apart. When I said the SFW is even worst was because the guy was saying that Pac was 145 at LW but I said that he was even that big at SFW for the JMM fight

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So what is the argument here?

Pacquiao, compared to 99% of other welterweights, is smaller than them. Clottey comes in at 170 sometimes, FFS!

Pacquiao is a natural Jr. WW. 140 is the perfect weight.



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