Who has the better accomplishments? Calz or Pav

[Freddy Krueger]

Calzaghe wins:

Hopkins(Pavlik believes Calzaghe won too, I can post the video for you Calzaghe haters if you don't believe me.)
Eubank
Lacy
Kessler
Veit
Bika


Pavlik wins:

Miranda
Taylor
Zertuche
Lockett
McKart
Zuniga

[jrosales13]

Cal hands down. And, Joe is arguably the greatest SMW of all time. But, he still not top 100 P4P.

[Freddy Krueger]

Cal hands down. And, Joe is arguably the greatest SMW of all time. But, he still not top 100 P4P.

How do you get on the top 100 p4p list if beating a legend like Hopkins and taking the 0 away from good fighters like lacy and kessler isn't enough to hit that list? And when you have 21-title defenses. And undefeated after beating fighters like Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, Eubank, Bika. So Calzaghe and Hopkins hold record title defenses in their weight-classes yet they're not good enough to be on the top 100 p4p list? That is what you're saying not me.

[Dambala]

Calzaghe by far. I don't know why he gets so much hate here, he was a great fighter who always came to fight.

[daggum]

if your gonna count the hopkins fight as a win for calzaghe might as well count it as a win for pavlik as well.

[daggum]

How do you get on the top 100 p4p list if beating a legend like Hopkins and taking the 0 away from good fighters like lacy and kessler isn't enough to hit that list? And when you have 21-title defenses. And undefeated after beating fighters like Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, Eubank, Bika. So Calzaghe and Hopkins hold record title defenses in their weight-classes yet they're not good enough to be on the top 100 p4p list? That is what you're saying not me.

calzaghe and sven ottke both had record title defenses at the same exact time in the same exact division. what the hell is that. why not fight each other instead of beating up bums to boost your resume? i don't remember anyone having 20 title defenses with hopkins at the same time. oh that's cause he fought everyone. please stop comparing the 2 fighters.

[Dambala]

if your gonna count the hopkins fight as a win for calzaghe might as well count it as a win for pavlik as well.

Nah, Hopkins looked spectacular against Pavlik, and it was a catchweight fight. The fight with Joe was competitive, the problem is that Hopkins seemed gassed out in the final rds and Calzaghe took over. It was really close, very different than the ass beating Pavlik took from him.

[jrosales13]

How do you get on the top 100 p4p list if beating a legend like Hopkins and taking the 0 away from good fighters like lacy and kessler isn't enough to hit that list? And when you have 21-title defenses. And undefeated after beating fighters like Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, Eubank, Bika. So Calzaghe and Hopkins hold record title defenses in their weight-classes yet they're not good enough to be on the top 100 p4p list? That is what you're saying not me.

Joe Calzaghe is not top 100 of all time cuz there were 100 greater fighters. That is the main reason why he is not in the top 100.

And, all the fighters you named Joe beating at 160. is what makes Calzaghe the greatest SMW of all time. So what is the problem here?

And, you can not compare Hopkins record title defenses at MW to Joe record title defenses at SMW. It does not hold the same historic value.

That is what I am saying.

[jrosales13]

Look Freddy I don't agree with this...

if your gonna count the hopkins fight as a win for calzaghe might as well count it as a win for pavlik as well.

But, Freddy I agree with this. Except for the bums part. I know Calzaghe did not fight all bums.

calzaghe and sven ottke both had record title defenses at the same exact time in the same exact division. what the hell is that. why not fight each other instead of beating up bums to boost your resume? i don't remember anyone having 20 title defenses with hopkins at the same time. oh that's cause he fought everyone. please stop comparing the 2 fighters.

[Sir Tom Jones]

calzaghe and sven ottke both had record title defenses at the same exact time in the same exact division. what the hell is that. why not fight each other instead of beating up bums to boost your resume? i don't remember anyone having 20 title defenses with hopkins at the same time. oh that's cause he fought everyone. please stop comparing the 2 fighters.

you give white americans a bad name with your constant hate for european boxers.

white european boxeres are better than white americans. get over it