ive noticed freddy roach isnt very good if his plans go wrong....

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  • sycomantz
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    #21
    Originally posted by Dan...
    I'm not sure Roach is that good a trainer. It kind of annoys me that he seems to share in a lot of the credit that should go to Pacquiao.
    there is no doubt roach groomed pac, extensively. it would be different if pac was able to take what he learn and build on it. to be come more self sufficient like mayweather. but pac isnt that good, he needs a master in his corner, breaking down the plan

    pac + roach= Pacquaio the fighter.

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    • Talisayen
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      #22
      Originally posted by sycomantz
      there is no doubt roach groomed pac, extensively. it would be different if pac was able to take what he learn and build on it. to be come more self sufficient like mayweather. but pac isnt that good, he needs a master in his corner, breaking down the plan

      pac + roach= Pacquaio the fighter.
      Have you been to a Math class lately? Noticed you've been using the + sign...

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      • S A M U R A I
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        #23
        Originally posted by Talisayen
        Have you been to a Math class lately? Noticed you've been using the + sign...
        LOL. Funny yo.



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        • johncods
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          #24
          Great now we have expert wannabes questioning roach's boxing knowledge?..

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          • championgee
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            #25
            another arturo gatti!

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            when you see how Mayweather so easily punishes Pacman, with body and head shots. You'll understand what I meant. I promise they will stop the fight, Mayweather will ko Pacman. Another brawler who think he's a boxer until he runs into the truth, "P4P UNDEFEATED UNDISTPUTED WORLD CHAMPION BOXER, Floyd ( Money)Maaaayweather!!!!!!!

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            • El Jesus
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              #26
              a trainer can come up with a plan but its up to the fighter to excecute it, one thing i can say about roach's success with kahn and with pac is that hes also co-managing these fighters and getting them the matches they need to accomplish whatever gameplan he sees fit for success. regardless, i do find it odd he thought vasquez was shot and vasquez has been somewhat better off without him.

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              • Sorbetero
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                #27
                youre a good trainer, but your boxer sucks/lacks of heart/ it wont work

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                • crossybossy
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                  #28
                  roach has went against mayweather once. got a split decision when working with dlh once. how do you think he'll do when he has to do it again with a person he considers a son for 8 years now?

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                  • mikelovesfood
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by championgee
                    No matter if Roach comes up with plan A-z, Pacmans ass is grass. He lacks the ABILTY to beat PBF. This fight is another Arturo gatti fight. Pacman has been led to believe he can box, which is not true. If he were to bum rush Mayweather and swing for the hills, he might could catch Mayweather with a lucky punch, if hes lucky. But hes not gonna do that because he thinks hes a boxer now. hes gonna come in the ring trying to out think, out counter Mayweather with his so called new found boxing skills, lol. If he plays chess with 'MONEY' he will never here the final bell.
                    I stopped reading when you put Manny and Gatti (r.i.p) in the same sentence.

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by El Jesus
                      a trainer can come up with a plan but its up to the fighter to excecute it, one thing i can say about roach's success with kahn and with pac is that hes also co-managing these fighters and getting them the matches they need to accomplish whatever gameplan he sees fit for success. regardless, i do find it odd he thought vasquez was shot and vasquez has been somewhat better off without him.
                      He also said the same thing about B-Hop after the Calzaghe fight. He might a big deal about B-Hop going to the wrong corner. He thought B-Hop should retire cuz he was shot. But, then B-Hop schools Pavlik. Is like if Roach losses the fighter is shot. Now that is something that I don't like about him. Is like he makes excuses. Oh and he also said the same about Oscar after the Floyd fight. That Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore. Which I think is true. But still he makes excuses for losses.

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