ive noticed freddy roach isnt very good if his plans go wrong....

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  • championgee
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    #11
    Manny is the same, no changes!! just wait and see

    I have not seen any thing diff in Pacmans performance, to even consider saying roach is a good trainer. What he is good at is Match making, placing him in with dying,weight drain, punch drunk, big named fighters was perfect match making. Now that Manny wants to retire, hes gonna make his biggest payday off of Manny. Manny looks good against brawlers, but he looks amerturish against boxers. Now you will see what Roach and Manny has learned since the Marquez (loss). I bet you will change your mind about Manny and roach after the fight!! Manny still throws the same combos, no head movement, with the same in out rhythm. Mayweather will time him and knock him out! just watch!

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      #12
      Originally posted by billionaire
      if you look at the close fight roach fighters have been in:
      hopkins vs calazaghe
      pacquiao vs morales I
      pacquiao vs marquez both times

      the roach fighters owned the first half rounds of those fights (except pac-marquez 2) but faded when there opponents adapted........if you look at those fights hopkins and pac were surviving the 2nd half off there own experience/physical abilities.....roach is very good at coming up with gameplans but when something changes he lacks that extra oomff for his fighters instructions.....

      chances are his plans will go haywire march 13.......just a thought........
      ROFL! yeah winning trainer of the year multiple times is no good. his fighters should adapt to the changes of the opponents even if they lose to be called a good trainer. forget filing up points, knocking your opponent early, just coast along and wait for your opponents change of tactics and adjust to that, forget winning, the most important in boxing is you must adjust to the changes your opponent do. brilliant! simply brilliant!

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        #13
        Originally posted by championgee
        I have not seen any thing diff in Pacmans performance, to even consider saying roach is a good trainer. What he is good at is Match making, placing him in with dying,weight drain, punch drunk, big named fighters was perfect match making. Now that Manny wants to retire, hes gonna make his biggest payday off of Manny. Manny looks good against brawlers, but he looks amerturish against boxers. Now you will see what Roach and Manny has learned since the Marquez (loss). I bet you will change your mind about Manny and roach after the fight!! Manny still throws the same combos, no head movement, with the same in out rhythm. Mayweather will time him and knock him out! just watch!
        yeah theres no different in pacman's performance, same move everytime, knocking his opps more often than not, i wonder why some people have problems with that, mostly those are the hypocrites

        hes good in match making alright like the one who picked a lightweight and have him bloat to 144 ww and him coming in 2lbs heavier.

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          #14
          Originally posted by billionaire
          if you look at the close fight roach fighters have been in:
          hopkins vs calazaghe
          pacquiao vs morales I
          pacquiao vs marquez both times

          the roach fighters owned the first half rounds of those fights (except pac-marquez 2) but faded when there opponents adapted........if you look at those fights hopkins and pac were surviving the 2nd half off there own experience/physical abilities.....roach is very good at coming up with gameplans but when something changes he lacks that extra oomff for his fighters instructions.....

          chances are his plans will go haywire march 13.......just a thought........
          chances are your'e a ****in idiot who dont know boxing!

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            #15
            James Toney/Samuel Peter

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              #16
              Originally posted by championgee
              I have not seen any thing diff in Pacmans performance, to even consider saying roach is a good trainer. What he is good at is Match making, placing him in with dying,weight drain, punch drunk, big named fighters was perfect match making. Now that Manny wants to retire, hes gonna make his biggest payday off of Manny. Manny looks good against brawlers, but he looks amerturish against boxers. Now you will see what Roach and Manny has learned since the Marquez (loss). I bet you will change your mind about Manny and roach after the fight!! Manny still throws the same combos, no head movement, with the same in out rhythm. Mayweather will time him and knock him out! just watch!
              Your avatar is just ****ing awful bro.



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                #17
                Originally posted by billionaire
                if you look at the close fight roach fighters have been in:
                hopkins vs calazaghe
                pacquiao vs morales I
                pacquiao vs marquez both times

                the roach fighters owned the first half rounds of those fights (except pac-marquez 2) but faded when there opponents adapted........if you look at those fights hopkins and pac were surviving the 2nd half off there own experience/physical abilities.....roach is very good at coming up with gameplans but when something changes he lacks that extra oomff for his fighters instructions.....

                chances are his plans will go haywire march 13.......just a thought........
                1) hopkins is old
                2) morales was too big and too skilled
                3) jmm lost 2x

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by billionaire
                  if you look at the close fight roach fighters have been in:
                  hopkins vs calazaghe
                  pacquiao vs morales I
                  pacquiao vs marquez both times

                  the roach fighters owned the first half rounds of those fights (except pac-marquez 2) but faded when there opponents adapted........if you look at those fights hopkins and pac were surviving the 2nd half off there own experience/physical abilities.....roach is very good at coming up with gameplans but when something changes he lacks that extra oomff for his fighters instructions.....

                  chances are his plans will go haywire march 13.......just a thought........
                  1) hopkins is old
                  2) morales was too big and too skilled
                  3) jmm lost 2x

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by championgee
                    No matter if Roach comes up with plan A-z, Pacmans ass is grass. He lacks the ABILTY to beat PBF. This fight is another Arturo gatti fight. Pacman has been led to believe he can box, which is not true. If he were to bum rush Mayweather and swing for the hills, he might could catch Mayweather with a lucky punch, if hes lucky. But hes not gonna do that because he thinks hes a boxer now. hes gonna come in the ring trying to out think, out counter Mayweather with his so called new found boxing skills, lol. If he plays chess with 'MONEY' he will never here the final bell.
                    I think Pac has a big uphill battle on his hands against Floyd but the red is where you lost me man. Comparing Pac to Gatti? Do you really understand what you are watching when you watch fighters? There is literally no comparison between the 2. Please!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by championgee
                      This fight is another Arturo gatti fight.


                      I was tempted to bust out the ROFLCOPTER.



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