Comments Thread For: Paul Williams' Promoter Fires Back at Kelly Pavlik, Arum

[MrFactor]

But, dissing Arum for putting up fights with money coming out of his own pocket. Like a real promoter does. Goosen does not do that. Now compare that to what Arum puts on when he has tv money.

TV will get behind good fights. Arum has to come out of the pocket because he's not willing to risk his guys. Thus no TV $$ will get behind the trashy cards that he puts up. Take this weekend for example. Pavlik vs Unknown guy with no shot to win or Williams vs Martinez. Which one should TV get behind?

[Scott9945]

Oh so, Arum's fighters are immune from getting gifts? How about Cotto's summer Christmas present against Clottey? But the Pacquiao-Cotto fight went forward anyway.

That was a close fight that most of the media scored for Cotto. Nothing nearly as bad as Toney-Oquendo, for example.

[Crazylegs77]

In response to comments that were made on Saturday night by WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik and his promoter Bob Arum [Click Here To Read] - Paul Williams' promoter, Dan Goossen, has fired back with comments of his own. Goossen is willing to negotiate with Top Rank for Pavlik-Williams, as long as there is a 50-50 co-promotion on the event. Goossen counters Arum's comments regarding the contract for Pavlik-Williams in 2008 and December 5, 2009. [Click Here To Read More]

Looks like Williams promoters will negotiate themselves out of the fight. How convenient. Sad since Paul wants anyone a anytime and is a throwback fighter... What they fail to realize is Pavlik has the belts, Williams isnt in line for a title shot, he is fortunate to have the opportunity without fighting other top MWs for it. Wouldnt be suprised if they will look for another big fight probably at WW.

[jrosales13]

TV will get behind good fights. Arum has to come out of the pocket because he's not willing to risk his guys. Thus no TV $$ will get behind the trashy cards that he puts up. Take this weekend for example. Pavlik vs Unknown guy with no shot to win or Williams vs Martinez. Which one should TV get behind?

Did Arum have tv money to get a better opponent? You guys keep talking about this independent PPV. But, you fail to realize he is not getting help for tv to get a better opponent. You not realizing if he gets tv money they will have better opponents.

[Freddy Krueger]

PWill is ducking pavlik its obvious pavlik should get more money

No he shouldn't, it should be 50/50. Pwills beat notable names such as Margarito, Wright(still good fighter even if u wanna say past it), and Martinez(close fight but still got in their with him). Pavliks beaten Zertuche, Miranda, and Taylor. 50/50, anymore and Pavliks a *****.

[Crazylegs77]

No he shouldn't, it should be 50/50. Pwills beat notable names such as Margarito, Wright(still good fighter even if u wanna say past it), and Martinez(close fight but still got in their with him). Pavliks beaten Zertuche, Miranda, and Taylor. 50/50, anymore and Pavliks a *****.

Pavlik holds the MW belts.

[Freddy Krueger]

Pavlik holds the MW belts.

Oh, I forgot since Pavliks opposition of late have been against bums. I forgot he was a champion at Middle-weight, thanks for reminding me. Maybe if Pavlik stop fighting clowns at middle-weight then I'd remember him as a champion.

[FLY TY]

I had Clottey winning but what rounds did Clottey clearly. I mean Clearly win. I am not talking about swing rounds or close rounds. I am talking about clearly win?

i agree... i thought clottey won the first fight too, but there were a lot of rounds that could've went either way....what i learned from williams-martinez, is that NO close fight can be considered a "robbery" or a "gift" for a certain fighter....

Before HBO started catering to Alvin Haymon and GBP they were catering to Top rank and arum but he only put together a few decent fights in years, When GBP started signing alot of good fighters HBO stop giving Top rank money for them to put on any fights when they could choose from other options.

The only great fights that Arum could sell to HBO are the fights involving his own fighters with him knowing he would end up making money from both fighters purse, If not he would put on silly fights.

For once i agree with the way HBO were running thing apart from giving GBP all the dates.

yessir...when's the last time arum came together with another promoter and put on a good card? it's silly for ppl to say the sport would be "dying" if not for arum...IMO the sport would be better without most of the promoters involved....

Looks like Williams promoters will negotiate themselves out of the fight. How convenient. Sad since Paul wants anyone a anytime and is a throwback fighter... What they fail to realize is Pavlik has the belts, Williams isnt in line for a title shot, he is fortunate to have the opportunity without fighting other top MWs for it. Wouldnt be suprised if they will look for another big fight probably at WW.

williams will fight martinez again, if he cannot get a fair contract for pavlik...considering many ppl thought martinez won the first time around, i wouldn't necessarily fault paul for taking that fight instead of pavlik...in fact, i'd applaud it.

[Corelone]

All I know is Paul had problems with a Jr. middle weight and I don't see him getting any better against a bigger man at 100%. I think Paul will sleep from this, deep sleep.

[FLY TY]

All I know is Paul had problems with a Jr. middle weight and I don't see him getting any better against a bigger man at 100%. I think Paul will sleep from this, deep sleep.

hard to judge a fight when it's put together at the last minute, and both fighters have about a month to train.