Why is Pavlik ducking Bute?

[Pullcounter]

Pre-Martinez, Pavlik didn't want any parts of Williams. Some people are honestly believing his hand was messed up that long.

didn't you hear what arum said? pavlik already signed the contract, it was pwill that didn't sign the contract.

[Iceta]

how do you duck someone that's not even in your weight class?

Turn down the challenge and fight an opponent that's worse for less money.

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TS he got checked by Bhop at 170. He knows that 168 is too much weight for him so why move up?

[Pullcounter]

Turn down the challenge and fight an opponent that's worse for less money.

but bute isn't in pavlik's weight division. there is no mandate for that fight.

[Mikhnienko]

bute is'nt a good ppv buy, but pavlik vs abraham is. ducking bute, this is the first i've heard of it.

You're trying to claim that Pavlik shouldn't fight Bute cuz there is no money in it, you're incorrect.

1) Pavlik- Bute would do huge PPV numbers

2) You have to consider the live gate. Bute Andrade sold out in 4 hours, Bute can do 17 thousand + fighting a Bika or Berrio. Against Pavlik they could get 40/50 thousand people easy in Montreal, anywhere in Quebec. That would compensate if they didn't have good PPV numbers, but they will do good PPV numbers.

Pavlik is a very good fighter, i'm a fan but Bute in general is a little better imo. He's as tall and naturally a little bigger/stronger. That alone would make it a tought fight.
But you throw in the styles, Bute as a boxer, his footwork, angels etc and it's a terrible matchup for Pavlik. Maybe his worst possible style matchup vs anyone at 168

If it ever happens Bute beats him, possibly stops him and makes Pavlik look very bad in the process. I'd still love to see it though

[Iceta]

but bute isn't in pavlik's weight division. there is no mandate for that fight.

Like I said before. HBO was interested in it. Why is Abraham good enough to fight at 168, but Pavlik isn't?

[Spray_resistant]

C'mon TS, don't be like the **** in my sig and just hate on Pavlik. He has no business fighting at 168 and should just stay at 160 and fight either PWill or Sturm any other fight would be meaningless.

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arum himself has indicated pavlik would move up in '10 besides who is there to fight @ 160 aside from williams and possibly martinez

if he were to indeed move up the winner of Miranda/Stieglitz wont pay ****, pavlik cant enter the super six so bute's the obvious choie

imho pavlik should duck bute cuz bute might ruin his career

pavlik doesnt deal well with moving targets who punch back with power..
taylor didnt have the stamina, hopkins didnt have age..bute does unless pavlik pulls an andrade (I)

[Iceta]

C'mon TS, don't be like the **** in my sig and just hate on Pavlik. He has no business fighting at 168 and should just stay at 160 and fight either PWill or Sturm any other fight would be meaningless.

Really? He fought Taylor there. So what's the problem?

[Mikhnienko]

arum himself has indicated pavlik would move up in '10 besides who is there to fight @ 160 aside from williams and possibly martinez

if he were to indeed move up the winner of Miranda/Stieglitz wont pay ****, pavlik cant enter the super six so bute's the obvious choie

imho pavlik should duck bute cuz bute might ruin his career

pavlik doesnt deal well with moving targets who punch back with power..
taylor didnt have the stamina, hopkins didnt have age..bute does unless pavlik pulls an andrade (I)

Macklin, Pirog & Golovkin in the very near future

Jacobs, N'jikam, Korobov in 1-2 years

160 is going to heat up real soon, alot of young talent