If Manny pressures FMJ he will win.

[Motofan]

A southpaw who doesn't give Floyd any room will simple mess him up. He can't shoulder roll a straight left. If Pacquiao makes him fight all night Floyd will lose, nuff said.

Pacquiao has the strength of Hatton, the speed of Judah and the workate of Castillo. As long as Pacquiao offensively assaults Mayweather for 12 rounds he's got it in the bag. Non of this "controlled ring generalship" - A guy like Pacquiao isn't going to be blinking every time Mayweather feints, nor is he going to sit his ass down in the middle of the ring and Let Floyd touch his belly with his jab.

I don't think Floyd can take his punches and I'd be surprised if this fight goes 12 rounds.

my reason being: Judah, a quick southpaw was fuqing him up for the first 5 rounds and it get's labelled as Mayweather adapting. WRONG, it was all Judah fading. He fades in all his fights. Pacquiao doesn't fade, and he's straight up better than Judah. I mean, at least Judah stayed in Floyds comfort zone.

Most Floyd fans won't even read this and will conjure up some jargon explaining to me why i'm wrong, which if I am, will apologize.

I think Floyds only way to win is if he can somehow run and clinch effectively against a man as strong and as skilled Pacquiao.

Some things to keep in mind (and Im not dismissing your post) are that

A. Manny tends to get wild and wide in fights.
B. Floyd will counter Manny to make him pay for being aggressive. Marquez did so well against Manny because Manny is open to counter punching with his "in and out" style.
C. Cotto had success working off his jab and boxing Pac. Floyd does it better then Cotto all around. Faster, more accurate, more disciplined.
D. Manny has never seen a defense nearly as good as Floyds. Manny is going to be hitting air ALOT in this fight.
E. Regardless of what you say, Floyd IS great at adapting to fighters mid fight. I have no doubt he has several ways he can win this fight. How many ways can Pac win?

Edit: Let me add that Floyd has the money punch for Pac. The straight right. That will be landing at will on Pac. Remember that.

[jthoang]

Some things to keep in mind (and Im not dismissing your post) are that

A. Manny tends to get wild and wide in fights.
B. Floyd will counter Manny to make him pay for being aggressive. Marquez did so well against Manny because Manny is open to counter punching with his "in and out" style.
C. Cotto had success working off his jab and boxing Pac. Floyd does it better then Cotto all around. Faster, more accurate, more disciplined.
D. Manny has never seen a defense nearly as good as Floyds. Manny is going to be hitting air ALOT in this fight.
E. Regardless of what you say, Floyd IS great at adapting to fighters mid fight. I have no doubt he has several ways he can win this fight. How many ways can Pac win?

Love what you said with your 5th point (E).

[myCoCainE]

whats juan take havewnt read that one...........evanders though was fair, accurate

Here's the link of Diaz's interview http://fighthype.com/pages/content6527.html

To sum it up, he said the pacman might throw a lot of punches at a time and some may land and that could pile up points and if mayweather senses that pac is leading in the scorecards, he might reach for a KO to win and might be KOed in the process instead.

[C.Y.]

A southpaw who doesn't give Floyd any room will simple mess him up. He can't shoulder roll a straight left. If Pacquiao makes him fight all night Floyd will lose, nuff said.

Pacquiao has the strength of Hatton, the speed of Judah and the workate of Castillo. As long as Pacquiao offensively assaults Mayweather for 12 rounds he's got it in the bag. Non of this "controlled ring generalship" - A guy like Pacquiao isn't going to be blinking every time Mayweather feints, nor is he going to sit his ass down in the middle of the ring and Let Floyd touch his belly with his jab.

I don't think Floyd can take his punches and I'd be surprised if this fight goes 12 rounds.

my reason being: Judah, a quick southpaw was fuqing him up for the first 5 rounds and it get's labelled as Mayweather adapting. WRONG, it was all Judah fading. He fades in all his fights. Pacquiao doesn't fade, and he's straight up better than Judah. I mean, at least Judah stayed in Floyds comfort zone.

Most Floyd fans won't even read this and will conjure up some jargon explaining to me why i'm wrong, which if I am, will apologize.

I think Floyds only way to win is if he can somehow run and clinch effectively against a man as strong and as skilled Pacquiao.

Opinion is opinion, i have to disagree with you sir and your analysis seems flawed in many ways..

If Pacquiao charges in and tries to apply constant pressure, he is going to get tagged all night long.. Mayweather is the best counter puncher in the game, he probably will be using the jab plenty in the fight, he has a 5 inch reach advantage, and Manny isnt the best defensive fighter in the world we all know that.. And Pacquiao probably won't apply all that pressure after he eats a few good counters..

So Judah was ****ing Floyd up for the first 5 rounds?? Judah won rounds 1, 2, and 4.. Floyd won 3 and 5.. FLoyd put the heat on Judah's ass, pressuring Judah and alot of body punching to Judah, that's why Judah broke down..

As far as the speed comparison, Judah is faster than Pacquiao, Pac is just more active and has more stamina..

So Mayweather has to run and clinch effectively in order to win? sure ok.... Mayweather can also win the fight fighting on the inside, because Pac isnt a good inside fighter, or just by fighting in the pocket and countering a lot of Manny's punches.. Marquez countered Manny plenty, even caught Manny with some left hooks, and last time i checked FLoyd is a master cpunter puncher and throws left hooks pretty well..

As far as punch resistance, Pacquiao has been hurt more times than Mayweather, and been knocked down and knocked out, and May took a few shots from a not prime, but non dehydrated Oscar at 154..

Defensively speaking, do you think Floyd is just going to shoulder roll all night? Do you think that is the only defensive tactic in his arsenal??

if anything Manny is going to have to come up with more than 1 strategy if he wants to be victorious, not just some basic applying pressure plan, that just sounds ******.. Manny has a lot to worry about in this fight, because he is fighting a fighter who probably won't be drained, and won't be a stationary target.. It could end up a lot worse than his fights with Marquez

[RightCross94]

Opinion is opinion, i have to disagree with you sir and your analysis seems flawed in many ways..

If Pacquiao charges in and tries to apply constant pressure, he is going to get tagged all night long.. Mayweather is the best counter puncher in the game, he probably will be using the jab plenty in the fight, he has a 5 inch reach advantage, and Manny isnt the best defensive fighter in the world we all know that.. And Pacquiao probably won't apply all that pressure after he eats a few good counters..

So Judah was ****ing Floyd up for the first 5 rounds?? Judah won rounds 1, 2, and 4.. Floyd won 3 and 5.. FLoyd put the heat on Judah's ass, pressuring Judah and alot of body punching to Judah, that's why Judah broke down..

As far as the speed comparison, Judah is faster than Pacquiao, Pac is just more active and has more stamina..

So Mayweather has to run and clinch effectively in order to win? sure ok.... Mayweather can also win the fight fighting on the inside, because Pac isnt a good inside fighter, or just by fighting in the pocket and countering a lot of Manny's punches.. Marquez countered Manny plenty, even caught Manny with some left hooks, and last time i checked FLoyd is a master cpunter puncher and throws left hooks pretty well..

As far as punch resistance, Pacquiao has been hurt more times than Mayweather, and been knocked down and knocked out, and May took a few shots from a not prime, but non dehydrated Oscar at 154..

Defensively speaking, do you think Floyd is just going to shoulder roll all night? Do you think that is the only defensive tactic in his arsenal??

if anything Manny is going to have to come up with more than 1 strategy if he wants to be victorious, not just some basic applying pressure plan, that just sounds ******.. Manny has a lot to worry about in this fight, because he is fighting a fighter who probably won't be drained, and won't be a stationary target.. It could end up a lot worse than his fights with Marquez

Really good post, green K. Not only because it pretty much sums up my thoughts but it was well written and made sense, and you don't get much of that on NSB.

[myCoCainE]

What I find really amusing in this fight is that we all know what Floyd's gonna do and not gonna do in this fight and with that, team pacquiao already knows what to expect from Mayweather and will probably base their gameplan on what they already know and based on what Money May can offer. Now following the soon to be devised gameplan will be the real challenge because as we all know, mayweather has that uncanny ability to adjust, but what if the pac camp already foresee those adjustments and devise counters for those, what if mayweather cannot adjust? The questions in this fight is as difficult to answer as my algebra, yes I suck in math.

[C.Y.]

wrong again? Shame on you, I've been right for my last 4 predictions with him, he's yet to let me down. The only way to deal with Manny's style is to out fight him, to throw just as much leather back and to want it as bad as he does. There aren't any ATG's around to do this. If Shane was in his prime we might have an option, but he's 37.

and what about your prediction with Pacquiao vs Marquez? Marquez outboxed Pac with technical skills and beat him in most people's eyes..

who were Pac's last 4 opponents

David Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto.. All come forward fighters, most of the guys mentioned didnt have much left in the tank

[struglerer]

opinion is opinion, i have to disagree with you sir and your analysis seems flawed in many ways..

If pacquiao charges in and tries to apply constant pressure, he is going to get tagged all night long.. Mayweather is the best counter puncher in the game, he probably will be using the jab plenty in the fight, he has a 5 inch reach advantage, and manny isnt the best defensive fighter in the world we all know that.. And pacquiao probably won't apply all that pressure after he eats a few good counters..

So judah was ****ing floyd up for the first 5 rounds?? Judah won rounds 1, 2, and 4.. Floyd won 3 and 5.. Floyd put the heat on judah's ass, pressuring judah and alot of body punching to judah, that's why judah broke down..

As far as the speed comparison, judah is faster than pacquiao, pac is just more active and has more stamina..

So mayweather has to run and clinch effectively in order to win? Sure ok.... Mayweather can also win the fight fighting on the inside, because pac isnt a good inside fighter, or just by fighting in the pocket and countering a lot of manny's punches.. Marquez countered manny plenty, even caught manny with some left hooks, and last time i checked floyd is a master cpunter puncher and throws left hooks pretty well..

As far as punch resistance, pacquiao has been hurt more times than mayweather, and been knocked down and knocked out, and may took a few shots from a not prime, but non dehydrated oscar at 154..

Defensively speaking, do you think floyd is just going to shoulder roll all night? Do you think that is the only defensive tactic in his arsenal??

if anything manny is going to have to come up with more than 1 strategy if he wants to be victorious, not just some basic applying pressure plan, that just sounds ******.. Manny has a lot to worry about in this fight, because he is fighting a fighter who probably won't be drained, and won't be a stationary target.. It could end up a lot worse than his fights with marquez

agree with this.........................

[The Gambler1981]

TO me FLoyd is the one with options in this fight Floyd can fight at range using his superior reach and great timing to never really let Manny get off properly or he can fight all the way inside because he is the superior inside fighters and has the shorter punches (plus the forearm thing to get the room he needs then tie up after he is done). Manny has to fight at his range while not getting to close or to far away against a fighter like Floyd that is difficult to do all fight long.

Manny does need to pressure and outwork Floyd because that is his best route to winning but that is way easier said then done against a fighter like Mayweather if Manny gets to excited or greedy he could get punished badly for it.

[hugh grant]

Its true Pac shouldnt just sit back and admire, and be mesmerized by PBFs defensive ability.
He should apply pressure intelligently. A lot of PBF opponents continue to punch and tire themselves out punching air when they are having no success.
Pac should pick his punches a bit more carefully.