Miguel Cotto is NOT an ATG

[jazluvr]

Street, will you admit to being a Cotto hater, for the record? Iceta has, and i respect him for it.

[street bully]

Street, will you admit to being a Cotto hater, for the record? Iceta has, and i respect him for it.

What are you talking about. Are you saying Cotto has a HOF record? I mean to be in a place with guys such as Ali, Robinson, Holmes, Foreman, and co? I sure as hell don't think so. He won two vacant titles great achievement.

[jrosales13]

What are you talking about. Are you saying Cotto has a HOF record? I mean to be in a place with guys such as Ali, Robinson, Holmes, Foreman, and co? I sure as hell don't think so. He won two vacant titles great achievement.

There is a lot of fighters in the hall of fame that do not belong with Ali, Robinson, Holmes, and Foreman. I mean you talking about ATG's. The HOF does have fighters who are not ATG's. Duilio Loi for example is not ATG. Matter of fact I would say Cotto belongs in the HOF more than he does. Yet Loi is in it... And, I am not saying Cotto is a sure fire HOF'er. I think he is borderline though. And, I believe Cotto>Hamed.

[jazluvr]

What are you talking about. Are you saying Cotto has a HOF record? I mean to be in a place with guys such as Ali, Robinson, Holmes, Foreman, and co? I sure as hell don't think so. He won two vacant titles great achievement.

I'm not saying anything. I am outright asking you if you hate Cotto...yes or no. And please be mindful of all you have posted about him in this forum. Just a simple yes or no. Don't complicate it. I mean no dissrespect by this question. You know we are cool via pm's, but we have our respectful differences here on the board.

So what is it...yes or no? And please don't say you are anywhere neutral.

[jrosales13]

Hamed unified his division and was undisputed champ, was Cotto?

And, Cotto is a 2 division champ. And, Cotto was not allowed to unify. Hamed best name in his resume is possibly an Old Kevin Kelly. Which Hamed had serious trouble in. Hamed has solid wins over Manuel Medina and McCullogh(spelling?). But, Cotto resume is better bro from top to bottom.

[Toney Loc]

One of the greatest of his era? Without a doubt.

All-time great? Hardly.

Must have been a crappy era. :spin:

[savorduhflavor]

Who the hell would say he's an ATG?

Cotto is a borderline HOF...and that's cause the boxing hall of fame isn't very exclusive.

He's had a very, very good career though.

[crillz]

I think that there needs to be a bit of clarity on this, this guy is certainly not an ATG, that's not to say that he can't still become one, but as of right now he is not even close to being one, I wouldn't even call him a HOF'r.

In 20 years from now, if Cotto retired today, his legacy would be very, very shallow, and he would be remembered more for the beat-downs he took than the ones he gave. Sad fact but true.

he's Hall Of Fame material already, people who have accomplished less have been inducted ya dig, he made noise, he reigned for 32 fights before being beaten down with plaster the way Danny Pink hit Roy Jones. what he's done is enough, sometimes it's also who you beat too not just how many straps you earned, Cotto has done enough and a win at 154 as I have been hearing is only going to skyrocket his ass even further..

[jose1418]

He sure as hell isn't even HOF worthy yet. If Hamed isn't in, Cotto sure as hell isn't.

Are you talking about nasin hamed? if so, you r crazy, cotto has fought way better competition than nasin, the fisrt good oponent the he fought, barrera, he got his ass kicked. I'm not saying that cotto is a HOF, but hamed is not even on that list, cotto could be.

[Earl-Hickey]

Uhm, Mayweather and Hopkins?

Fighters that are technically still active and shoe ins for hall of fame.

Heavyweight
Evander Holyfield

LHW
Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones

WW
Floyd, Mosley, Pac

Lw
Marquez

and many more little guys below that.