People who hate on Paul Williams are not true boxing fans.

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  • KittenFlaps
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    #61
    I don't hate Pwill, I hate "The most avoided man in boxing". If Williams was just Williams the boxer who was working to become a champion, to build a devout fan base, to fight his way to the big fights, then I wouldn't mind Williams.

    Instead, Williams is "The Most Avoided Man in Boxing" which drives me effing crazy. He's currently a high risk, low reward fighter. I don't blame him for being talented, but I do blame his promoters for making me hate hearing about him.

    You can say that not liking Paul Williams makes you not a true boxing fan all you want, but me, as a boxing fan, I tend to base my appreciation of a boxer on what they do in the ring with the opportunities provided, not what they say they could do were an opportunity provided.

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    • El Castigador
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      #62
      Originally posted by dans01234
      That's what we know right now.

      There's also another type of fighter who we've yet to see him against, a puncher.

      Sharmba Mitchell, Quintana, Margarito, Phillips, Winky, and Martinez are all not what you would consider big punchers. Margs is the closest thing and he's more of an accumulation guy.

      If Martinez can hurt and floor this guy, wouldn't it be possible if not probable that a puncher like Pavlik could SERIOUSLY hurt him?

      Personally I would favor Williams to beat Pavlik, but I think Williams chin still has a few question marks, because like I said he hasn't faced a dynamite puncher yet.
      Margarito hit pretty hard especially with Plaster..and he took his shots.

      Paul said he wasnt hurt...vs. Sergio...

      Pavliks style is the style that Paul loves to fight....He doesnt have to turn and chase him like he did Sergio.

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      • jrosales13
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        #63
        Originally posted by Makavelli

        Manny Pacquiao



        Manny Pacquiao





        Manny Pacquiao



        Manny Pacquiao




        interesting
        I honestly believe real talk. If Pacquiao was black. Burner would be a huge fan.

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          #64
          Originally posted by King Burner
          Margarito hit pretty hard especially with Plaster..and he took his shots.

          Paul said he wasnt hurt...vs. Sergio...

          Pavliks style is the style that Paul loves to fight....He doesnt have to turn and chase him like he did Sergio.
          Do you honestly believe that?

          And, also I think P-Will would beat Pavlik. But, P-Will gets hit a lot. And, Pavlik would be the hardest puncher he has ever faced. And, I don't if P-Will chin is good enough.

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          • El Castigador
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            #65
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            I honestly believe real talk. If Pacquiao was black. Burner would be a huge fan.
            What the **** is that suppose to mean?

            Is Edwin Valero black?? What about Malinagii ?

            Barerra?? Hamed?? JMM??

            I dont give a **** what race a fighter is...Most of the NFL players I love are WHITE...
            Last edited by El Castigador; 12-18-2009, 01:34 PM.

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            • -MAKAVELLI-
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              #66
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              I honestly believe real talk. If Pacquiao was black. Burner would be a huge fan.



              its obvious Burner is racist

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              • El Castigador
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                #67
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Do you honestly believe that?

                And, also I think P-Will would beat Pavlik. But, P-Will gets hit a lot. And, Pavlik would be the hardest puncher he has ever faced. And, I don't if P-Will chin is good enough.
                Yes...........why does he have to lie.

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                • dans
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by King Burner
                  Margarito hit pretty hard especially with Plaster..and he took his shots.

                  Paul said he wasnt hurt...vs. Sergio...

                  Pavliks style is the style that Paul loves to fight....He doesnt have to turn and chase him like he did Sergio.
                  I said Margs hit hard but he's no 1 punch KO specialist or anything. He doesn't have near the power Pavlik has, especially cause Pavlik is a BIG middleweight.

                  Paul lied. Take a look at the KD and tell me he wasn't hurt.

                  No doubt, but when you consider Pavlik is a much bigger puncher than ANYONE Williams has fought, a lot of what you THINK you know gets thrown out the window. Truth is, we don't know if Williams can take the bombs that Kelly would be throwing. We do know that Pavlik shouldn't have problems with Paul's power cause he's the bigger man and he's been hit with big shots at MW before. Paul has not.

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                  • El Castigador
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Makavelli
                    its obvious Burner is racist
                    Take the racist **** elsewhere or go on ignore...

                    So because Im not a Pacfan...Im racist..

                    Thats odd...I have no problem with Donaire...and I hate Vic Darchinyan.

                    Figure that out.

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                    • El Castigador
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by dans01234
                      I said Margs hit hard but he's no 1 punch KO specialist or anything. He doesn't have near the power Pavlik has, especially cause Pavlik is a BIG middleweight.

                      Paul lied. Take a look at the KD and tell me he wasn't hurt.

                      No doubt, but when you consider Pavlik is a much bigger puncher than ANYONE Williams has fought, a lot of what you THINK you know gets thrown out the window. Truth is, we don't know if Williams can take the bombs that Kelly would be throwing. We do know that Pavlik shouldn't have problems with Paul's power cause he's the bigger man and he's been hit with big shots at MW before. Paul has not.
                      Hell I dont think Pavlik can take that many punches..........to be honest...

                      Im going to talk Williams-Pavlik tonight on the show.

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