Who has defeated more fighters in their PRIME: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

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    #121
    Juddi Dalli being eaten alive again with his BS thread IMO lol..

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    • jkaisen41
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      #122
      Originally posted by miron_lang
      Mate


      You dont have the right to argue about Resumes. You dont even know who Ledwabba and Sasakul are.


      in reality Pacquiao ****s on Floyds Resume.... Pac has more fights with better fighters.
      These are two fighters and... I seriously doubt that they are great or? If they were I'm pretty much sure I would have heard of them or???

      That's your opinion... I disagree respectfully... he has more fights with fighters who have a better resume... but that doesn't mean that they were any better then Floyd opponents... like said... Morales and Barrera pretty much made themselves great... it's not like they beaten legends or something... they had each other... Marquez was a good fighter but pretty much became fame through Pacquiao... it's not like they beat any of higher notice... they had each other... so of course they have a great on their resume... Floyd beat all champions that were there at his reign who wanted some (130/135)... so I have no problem for that...

      But I know who Jesus Chavez is... so I think I have the right to answer for him if somebody puts him into the dirt to make his fighter look better or???

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        #123
        Originally posted by miron_lang
        Pacquiao easily.



        Manny Pacquiao

        MAB
        JMM
        Sasakul
        Ledwabba
        Hatton
        Cotto
        Diaz


        Floyd

        Corrales
        Castillo
        Baldo ( WTF??!! LOL )



        7-3 Pacquiao!
        What the ****? Mate, you seem like one of the more semi-reasonable Pacfans on here but what are you smoking? How do you put Hatton on Pac's when Mayweather fought the undefeated version over a year before?

        You also laughing at Balodomir on Mayweather's but put Diaz on Pac's? Come one man, try having a bit of reason here.

        Going through them with prime or close to prime fighters the best list would be something like this (and I'm only going to put in the top guys):
        Mayweather: Corrales
        Castillo
        Hernandez
        Chavez (not sure if this should be in there as a top guy or not)
        Hatton
        Corley
        Judah (not sure about this one either. He was close I guess)

        Pac: Sasakul
        Ledwaba
        Barrera
        Marquez (this is as debatable as Judah I think. Although still very good he was 36 and had slowed from their last fight)
        Diaz (if we have Chavez we have Diaz)
        Cotto
        Hatton (I personally think Hatton was done, but he had just beaten Paulie so I guess he also fits)

        Seven each. Both the same.

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          #124
          Originally posted by jkaisen41
          These are two fighters and... I seriously doubt that they are great or? If they were I'm pretty much sure I would have heard of them or???


          But I know who Jesus Chavez is... so I think I have the right to answer for him if somebody puts him into the dirt to make his fighter look better or???
          Ledwaba was **** but Sasakul was a very good fighter man. That's a good win for Pac. He was a top fighter and champion before and after Pac. Ledwaba wasn't very good before Pac and retired straight after. He wasn't much to begin with.

          Sasakul was better than Jesus 'El Matador' Chavez though. Chavez is a D. Diaz level guy. Though if they fought years ago Chavez would have whipped him.

          Their resumes are very similar in all reality.

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            #125
            Originally posted by BennyST
            Ledwaba was **** but Sasakul was a very good fighter man. That's a good win for Pac. He was a top fighter and champion before and after Pac. Ledwaba wasn't very good before Pac and retired straight after. He wasn't much to begin with.

            Sasakul was better than Jesus 'El Matador' Chavez though. Chavez is a D. Diaz level guy. Though if they fought years ago Chavez would have whipped him.

            Their resumes are very similar in all reality.
            Irconically those two would end up having a "who wants to retire first" fight recently. Chavez was done the moment his knee gave in on him during the Julio Diaz fight, i dont even see why he feels the need to continue.

            Its funny when you think about someone of David Diaz calbur being on the same team as Tarver, Reid, Mayweather and Vargas as well as Zahir Raheem, all guys that kill him in the skill department.

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            • El Jesus
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              #126
              I also realized that mayweather is 17-0 in title fights, considering its through 5 weight classes thats very impressive. Not obviously as impressive at 7 titles, but still, thats incredible.

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                #127
                Originally posted by BennyST
                What the ****? Mate, you seem like one of the more semi-reasonable Pacfans on here but what are you smoking? How do you put Hatton on Pac's when Mayweather fought the undefeated version over a year before?

                You also laughing at Balodomir on Mayweather's but put Diaz on Pac's? Come one man, try having a bit of reason here.

                Going through them with prime or close to prime fighters the best list would be something like this (and I'm only going to put in the top guys):
                Mayweather: Corrales
                Castillo
                Hernandez
                Chavez (not sure if this should be in there as a top guy or not)
                Hatton
                Corley
                Judah (not sure about this one either. He was close I guess)

                Pac: Sasakul
                Ledwaba
                Barrera
                Marquez (this is as debatable as Judah I think. Although still very good he was 36 and had slowed from their last fight)
                Diaz (if we have Chavez we have Diaz)
                Cotto
                Hatton (I personally think Hatton was done, but he had just beaten Paulie so I guess he also fits)

                Seven each. Both the same.
                lol its a mistake on my part. i already apologized to the idiot TS


                Hernadez? Carlos? Genaro? and you didnt include Larios who went on to win another title above the division he previously won. That was Genaro's last professional fight. while Larios went on to win another title


                You included Corley but Not Nedal Hussein and Jorge Solis? All of them title chalengers. Even Farrakob Rakkiatgym is also a 2 time World title chalenger.


                Hector Velasquez is also prime.
                Last edited by miron_lang; 12-17-2009, 04:21 AM.

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                  #128
                  I Ippy-dippied and it landed on Pacquiao, sry guys...
                  On paper I think mayweather has beaten more prime fighters, but for some reason pacquiao seems to suprise me more...
                  Hmmmmm

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                  • miron_lang
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by BennyST
                    Ledwaba was **** but Sasakul was a very good
                    LOL

                    at that time Ledwabba was the TOP DOG @122 Geoge Foreman was all praise for him.

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                    • El Jesus
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by miron_lang
                      lol its a mistake on my part. i already apologized to the idiot TS


                      Hernadez? Carlos? Genaro? and you didnt include Larios who went on to win another title above the division he previously won. That was Genaro's last professional fight. while Larios went on to win another title


                      You included Corley but Not Nedal Hussein and Jorge Solis? All of them title chalengers


                      Hector Velasquez is also prime.
                      Oscar Larios was totally finished after he fought vasquez for that third time, people had been calling for him to retire for years and in reality that was a stay busy fight. Jorge Solis and Hussein arent that great at all, Jorge's brother is another story.

                      If im not mistaken Larios won one of those bull**** international belts i think but that was about it. Genaro was undefeated at 130 before he fought floyd, his only loss came at the hands of a young de la hoya one division up, thats why that fight was so signifigant, not to mention floyd was an underdog and had only been pro about a year and a half.

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