OK, everyone saying that Pavlik "ducked" Paul Williams

[warp1432]

And another post:

Here's another thing, that is laughable:

Quote:
"You can't help but have concern about the hand, but we've still got six weeks and that gives us enough time to be ready. He's been running and lifting weights because he was trying to push through for the fight with Williams on Dec. 5. He asked if Williams could wait until the 19th and it couldn't be done. We understood. Now he has another chance to go the 19th and he's going to go."
How the **** do you lift weights, when you can't close your hand and lift heavy things.

Here is a condricting statement from Pavlik:

Quote:
“At the Ironman [Gym], I could see how much I lost. When you can’t pick up anything heavier than a gallon of milk for two months, it’s going to take a while to get back into it. But we’ll get there. This is an awesome feeling as I am ready to get back into the ring,” Pavlik said.

He can lift weights, but barely lift a gallon of milk

[dc6112]

Here's a good post I did on this:

Dunkin said his hand was improving. Isn't 4 weeks a reasonable amount of time for it to improve? I never heard him say that he was 100% You're making it seem as if Kelly was doing one handed pushups with it, when all that was said was that his hand is improving much better than it had in the past.

[T.Horton]

1. He isn't the brightest guy, he shoulda stayed on top of things.

2. He postponed because his hand wasn't healed, i think we covered that.

3. Boxers, to my knowledge, do not fight when they knowingly have a staph infection. If you can show me a guy who fought with a staff infection in HIS HAND, I will be bamboozled.

4. He's fighting in December because he is being forced to face a mandatory, as opposed to loosing his belts.

so this guy he is fighting is his mandatory for all his titles including the ring middleweight belt?

[mrlopez]

With that being said, I dont think Pavlik downright fears Williams. I just think his team felt that he had some hard fights and he deserved to get a couple of cupcakes before jumping back in with the big boys and unlike others, I am totally fine with that. I think you do need time to regroup sometimes. I see this fight happening next because Williams wants the big money and wants to prove himself while Pavlik thinks Williams is overrated after the Quintana & Martinez fights

Cupcake fights? Are you serious?

And you call him overrated after the quintana and martinez fights? he came back and ktfo of Quintana in the 2nd fight, and had a hell of a fight that could be considered FOTY with Martinez who i'm sure could knock Casper the hell out.........

Casper & his team got scared, plain and simple....

[Easy-E]

Pavlik: Sorry HBO my staph infection is way too bad right now.
HBO: Ok, Paul, Kelly wants to postpone again.
Williams: **** that, I wanna fight.
HBO: ok

Williams: I just signed to fight world champion Sergio Martinez
HBO: Good for you, Paul, should be an excellent matchup!
Pavlik: Oh, so btw my hand is better. And I am going to fight Miguel Espina two weeks after I was supposed to fight Paul Williams....and its gonna be on ppv for $40.
HBO/Williams: WTF?

[deeznutz27]

i like pavlik for the record, but for now it seems his ducks are in a row

[dc6112]

Pavlik: Sorry HBO my staph infection is way too bad right now.
HBO: Ok, Paul, Kelly wants to postpone again.
Williams: **** that, I wanna fight.
HBO: ok

Williams: I just signed to fight world champion Sergio Martinez
HBO: Good for you, Paul, should be an excellent matchup!
Pavlik: Oh, so btw my hand is better. And I am going to fight Miguel Espina two weeks after I was supposed to fight Paul Williams....and its gonna be on ppv for $40.
HBO/Williams: WTF?

This is a good example of twisting the truth to make it fit your argument, but it's not what happened.

[Calilloyd]

The point is even if it was legit, the fool is fighting this guy only 2 weeks after he was supposed to fight Williams. I hope you dont believe that **** about Williams team didnt want to wait 2 weeks. That BS. Anyone knows they wouldve easily waited. The fact is that Pavlik's team tried to just put everything off and then as soon as Williams signed another fight, then they come back and say that Kelly is fine now and we could fight in 2 weeks but its too late because Williams already has another fight. That **** is a joke

Agreed. Anybody who believes that BS is a mark for Kelly Pavlik.

[Clegg]

It's possible that it was legit, just like it's possible that Haye's injury was legit and that Mayweather's injury was legit (those situations aren't all the same, of course, but there were claims of BS made by people on the site in all three cases)

It seems that in most instances of injury, what the fans believe has a lot to do with whether or not they like the boxer involved.

Whatever the facts, I think that Pavlik's career has been damaged more by all of the injuries/injury claims than it would've been if he had just turned down the Williams fight straight away.

[Calilloyd]

so why fight at all then?

Losing belts is regrettable, but if you really have some life threatening fungus or whatever the ****, then too damn bad, you gotta lose them belts till you get better