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  • #81
    Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
    The funny thing is,I do believe you think this scenario to be true.Where is Manny a HEAVY underdog who is underestimated-seriously? Most bookies have Floyd only slightly a favourite.
    By the way-I am not a diehard fan of any fighter.I do not carry an obsessed fan mentality like some people do-(example-some people are fans of a fighter because of similar nationality-is that a logical way to measure skill???). I am a fan of the sport and can see that people are overestimating Pacquiao based on his last 4 wins- all wins that I have told people Pacquiao would win.
    Now to respond to you believing Mayweather's defense is over-rated,I would like to ask you,when has anyone been successful in ko'ing Mayweather when his defense is up? Your speech is essentially dictating Manny to have a lucky puncher's chance in this fight,when you need to recognize that there is indeed a chance that he may not be able to even hurt Floyd if he connects.I am not convinced Manny can get a ko against people at a heavier weight-lets face it-he punished a severely weight drained Oscar,yet couldn't ko him-he retired on his stool.He punished Cotto at a catch weight,but could not ko him-the fight I feel wasn't justified for a stoppage at that round of the fight.
    You may want to think how Manny will handle a punch from Floyd.The reality is,Floyd does have very fast hands and accurate as well.In fact,his power is very under-rated by Pacquiao fans.
    All in all,Floyd has too many advantages in this fight-he is a right-handed counter puncher with excellent timing,one of the best defenses today (not just a shoulder roll as you imply),excellent speed and is very adaptable.Manny will not shine against these type of fighters like he has his last 4 fighters-they were at a disadvantage style-wise and gave up weight.Even Freddie Roach says the Mayweather fight will be a different fight,and tougher than his previous 4. It's funny to hear you actually believe this will be easy, in fact if you believe it to not be competitive-would you actually watch it???

    Shane couldn't stop Cotto, let alone deck him 2 times. Nobody stopped Oscar, if anyone was going to, it was Manny. (B-Hop was a MW) and then of course, the Hatton brutalization.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
      The funny thing is,I do believe you think this scenario to be true.Where is Manny a HEAVY underdog who is underestimated-seriously? Most bookies have Floyd only slightly a favourite.
      By the way-I am not a diehard fan of any fighter.I do not carry an obsessed fan mentality like some people do-(example-some people are fans of a fighter because of similar nationality-is that a logical way to measure skill???). I am a fan of the sport and can see that people are overestimating Pacquiao based on his last 4 wins- all wins that I have told people Pacquiao would win.
      Now to respond to you believing Mayweather's defense is over-rated,I would like to ask you,when has anyone been successful in ko'ing Mayweather when his defense is up? Your speech is essentially dictating Manny to have a lucky puncher's chance in this fight,when you need to recognize that there is indeed a chance that he may not be able to even hurt Floyd if he connects.I am not convinced Manny can get a ko against people at a heavier weight-lets face it-he punished a severely weight drained Oscar,yet couldn't ko him-he retired on his stool.He punished Cotto at a catch weight,but could not ko him-the fight I feel wasn't justified for a stoppage at that round of the fight.
      You may want to think how Manny will handle a punch from Floyd.The reality is,Floyd does have very fast hands and accurate as well.In fact,his power is very under-rated by Pacquiao fans.
      All in all,Floyd has too many advantages in this fight-he is a right-handed counter puncher with excellent timing,one of the best defenses today (not just a shoulder roll as you imply),excellent speed and is very adaptable.Manny will not shine against these type of fighters like he has his last 4 fighters-they were at a disadvantage style-wise and gave up weight.Even Freddie Roach says the Mayweather fight will be a different fight,and tougher than his previous 4. It's funny to hear you actually believe this will be easy, in fact if you believe it to not be competitive-would you actually watch it???
      Thanks for your reply. Your points on Mayweather's capabilities are very good. It comes down to this: Will the Pretty Boy's highly touted defensive talents be enough to fend off the Pacman's fistic assaults? How will Floyd adjust to Manny's speed, power, agility, weird punching angles and relentless work rate?

      You say that Mayweather is a "Master" at adapting to fight situations. Let's see if he can handle his toughest challenge ever. I believe the Boxing World is going to be shocked to see Pretty Boy defeated for the first time by the best Pound-4-Pound Fighter on the Planet, Manny Pacquiao.




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      • #83
        Originally posted by them_apples View Post
        Shane couldn't stop Cotto, let alone deck him 2 times. Nobody stopped Oscar, if anyone was going to, it was Manny. (B-Hop was a MW) and then of course, the Hatton brutalization.
        Was Oscar not a weight Zombie...

        Half of the boxing world wouldve stopped Oscar that night...he was a shell.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Lady Fan View Post
          Thanks for your reply. Your points on Mayweather's capabilities are very good. It comes down to this: Will the Pretty Boy's highly touted defensive talents be enough to fend off the Pacman's fistic assaults? How will Floyd adjust to Manny's speed, power, agility, weird punching angles and relentless work rate?

          You say that Mayweather is a "Master" at adapting to fight situations. Let's see if he can handle his toughest challenge ever. I believe the Boxing World is going to be shocked to see Pretty Boy defeated for the first time by the best Pound-4-Pound Fighter on the Planet, Manny Pacquiao.




          Sorry-I just pissed myself laughing! Can you name someone who is better defensively at the moment? Give Floyd his dues,you may not like him,but the guy is talented just as Manny is.As far as Floyd adapting to Pacquiao,it is VERY possible and certainly not far fetched.He adapts to most fighters and is more versatile than Manny.Manny really only knows one way to fight- I don't see how that is an advantage for Manny when fighting a counter puncher.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by King Burner View Post
            Was Oscar not a weight Zombie...

            Half of the boxing world wouldve stopped Oscar that night...he was a shell.
            Beating Oscar was not competitive.He was weight drained (so badly he had iv marks from attempting to rehydrate) and looked poor in his prior fight with Forbes-so poor that it looked like Forbes was the winner after the fight because how much he was able to hit Oscar...

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            • #86
              Originally posted by them_apples View Post
              Shane couldn't stop Cotto, let alone deck him 2 times. Nobody stopped Oscar, if anyone was going to, it was Manny. (B-Hop was a MW) and then of course, the Hatton brutalization.
              You miss the point-My point is I am not confident Manny can completely ko (not tko) someone at the heavier weights.He certainly hasn't ko'd Cotto or Oscar-and that form of Oscar should have been able to be ko'd. I believe that Manny does have power,but is being over-rated while Mayweather is being under-rated...

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