fitefandotcom accuses Pac of roids!

[HandSpeed303]

Floyd got slower.....and hit softer and had more fat.

Pac got bigger..stronger...faster...and more ripped...and was koing biggr fighters.


WTF

You can't really count the Diaz fight though.

Now as far as Hotton goes, that was a great shot, to a already shakey chin.

Cotto gets hit alot. Nuff said.

I don't know if he got stronger. But he has always had speed...And to me, he has not got faster. his speed is still there, but it has not increased.

The more ripped part could be the fact that he came from 106...The man has not put on body fat in dawn near any fight. Are we to assume he has been using his whole career?

He did dish out beating in his last few fights, but those fighter were shot...Remember?

[IMDAZED]

Just to emphasize how much (and how many) athletes are using PEDs (mostly undetectable), check out this new article on ESPN. Truth slowly seeping through...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4744216

[larry x]

Look at Mayweather's 1st fight at 147. This was against Mitchell, see how soft he looks? Look at his back in general. Note: Mayweather weighs 146 here.



Now look at how ripped Pacquiao is, also consider that he's moving up from 135. That's very impressive but you also have to be a little skeptical.

man floyd was in beast mode in that fight str8 up walking mitchell down..lol

[El Castigador]

You can't really count the Diaz fight though.

Now as far as Hotton goes, that was a great shot, to a already shakey chin.

Cotto gets hit alot. Nuff said.

I don't know if he got stronger. But he has always had speed...And to me, he has not got faster. his speed is still there, but it has not increased.

The more ripped part could be the fact that he came from 106...The man has not put on body fat in dawn near any fight. Are we to assume he has been using his whole career?

He did dish out beating in his last few fights, but those fighter were shot...Remember?

He bullied Cotto all over the ring......the guy is on something..the truth will come out slowly but surely...lets hope this guy didnt cheat the sport we love so much.

Oscar was shot...so was Hatton...wow ...and Cotto.

Diaz was a live dog..but a bumb though...we'll see how good he is March 13th.

BTW.....

Floyd and Pac were both 106 Pounds.......

[larry x]

Wrong. These guys are putting their arguments forth carefully and are not really accusing anyone. If anything ariza is being accused, and Manny almost excused.I do think it would behoove Manny (for his reputation's sake) to make himself aware of what he is taking. I think it is every athlete's responsibility to do so.

exactly.................

[HandSpeed303]

Toney tested positive twice so I don't know what his excuse is. Besides, just because he used it to help an injury doesn't make it ok. Hell, that's the #2 reason why most athletes use it. Not only that, I don't believe him anyway. Toney always looked like a cycler to me, growing man **** and all. I felt kinda strange watching him against Holyfield. Same with Roy - first time he used? I doubt it. But who knows? Go to any boxing gym and they'll tell you that most guys are on one thing or the other. Why wouldn't they?

Well in Toney's case (as far as the man boobs go) the man is like 5'10 and like 200 somthing pounds. Do to body structure that can happen. I did forget it was twice though.

Anyway, that is why I feel Manny is not on something. Do to his body type. He came from 106, he is not that short, he stays in good shape. I don't know, maybe he is, maybe he is not. We will find out.


On A Side Note: I visit two gyms on the regular (16th street gym (home of stevie johnston) and A-1 boxing).

[sigrab]

floyd fans didnt write the article..floyd fans didnt put a gun to malinagii and cintron and make them say what they said.....we didnt make this **** up...lets see how the testing goes

Exactly. Let's wait and see what happens before you start jumping the gun again. Otherwise, we might witness Mak asking you to say out loud that you were wrong... again. See the thread below starting around post #44...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334066&page=5

There's really no harm in waiting until all the facts are in before you start mouthing off on Pac, Ariza or anyone else for that matter. That's how most if not all logical ppl do it.

[HandSpeed303]

exactly.................

So now you just picking through post and co-signing huh. Memphis stand up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IMDAZED]

Well in Toney's case (as far as the man boobs go) the man is like 5'10 and like 200 somthing pounds. Do to body structure that can happen. I did forget it was twice though.

Anyway, that is why I feel Manny is not on something. Do to his body type. He came from 106, he is not that short, he stays in good shape. I don't know, maybe he is, maybe he is not. We will find out.


On A Side Note: I visit two gyms on the regular (16th street gym (home of stevie johnston) and A-1 boxing).

I try not to use the visual test because the PEDs today are so beyond that (as opposed to the nineties and eighties when it was much more obvious) but yes, I question Manny's camp - particularly Roach who has worked with several roid freaks. Most notably, Lucia Rijker who was as obvious as it gets. Freddie has his own demons anyway. Regardless, it's not out of the realm of possibility. And I wouldn't go off Manny's looks. Nor would I go off testing, positive or negative.

[.Sakuragi.]

It's a great comparison, look at their physique and how both perform.

Floyd got slower.....and hit softer and had more fat.

Pac got bigger..stronger...faster...and more ripped...and was koing biggr fighters.


WTF

Funny thing is, Sr made up the "Weight Drained" excuse at Pac-Delahoya Post fight. Which eventually used by Floyd Stans to discredit Pac's win, then Sr say "Pac is on roids cause he's been KOING Bigger and Stronger guys" LMAO.

Do you know why Manny looks stronger? Simple he's an offensive fighter, he comes forward and trade shots with speed and weird angles. Floyd fight backwards and uses timing and speed to win. See the difference?

Fighting Forward and Backward are basically different. Chances of Koing a guy by moving Forward is a lot, while chances of koing a guy by fighting backwards are minimal.