IF Pac beats Floyd....whether by Decision or KO....
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When will people stop saying Pac came from 106 like he was a grown man at that age? Most guys who are WW now were 106 at age 16 also, they were just fighting in the Ams.Pac is doing things that no one has ever done as Arum said. Look at the faces of all the boxers Pac has beat of late and how battered they looked. People are so impressed with him they accuse him of steroids. How people behave towards Pac, speaks volumes and louder than any words will ever do, and all counts towards Pacs greatness and it all adds up.
He was favourite against Cotto for good ness sake. Pac has come a long, long way. How many people in Cottos career were favourite against him, let alone someone who came from 116 or is it 106?
He is top 10 now perhaps and if he beats PBF, skys the limit.Comment
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Doesnt matter if Floyd holds no belts , we all know what he represents and what class of fighter he is , I dont believe in tin these days its more about who you beat , when you beat them in terms of their peak and how you beat them , winner of this fight is an ATG for sure , how high is nothing but opinion .Top 25, sure... maybe Top 15 by some ways of thinking,
whether or not he beats Mayweather. Floyd holds no belts,
and hasn't fought meaningful comp recently.
Beating Shane/Berto would be far more relevant in ATG terms,
over the long-haul: 10, 20, or 50 years from now... boxing fans
will look at a back-out-of-retirement Floyd who loses to Pac,
and shrug --what was that fight all about? Why was it made?Comment
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It's irrelevant to cite 106 when talking about present-day matchups.
It can be relevant when discussing whole-career achievements, and
a discussion on ATG status has to consider it.Comment
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LOL... LOL... LOLnope:
Barrera 1-PAST PRIME
Morales1-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED-Erik DESTROYED Manny
Morales2-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Morales3-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Jmm-1 -Jmm Beat the crap out of Pacroid..
Jmm-2 PAST PRIME Marquez beat up manny AGAIN lmfao
Barrera2-PAST PRIME
Diaz-Got a gift decision against a SHOT Morales..
Delahoya- PASTPRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Hatton- PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Cotto-PASTPRIME? WEIGHT DRAINED
based on MEDIA HYPE....yes
based on RESUME.... No chance in hell..
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There's a reason why every sport has a 5-7 year waiting period before inducting someone into a Hall of Fame. It's hard to judge while you're in the moment. On one hand, you'll have guys who will take every opportunity to discredit his wins, even one over Mayweather. On the other, you'll have people who will say beating Mayweather is better than anything legends like Roberto Duran or Muhammad Ali did.Comment
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I do agree that Fitsz being left off and Whitaker's ranking are horrible. I still think that given his accomplishments, Pac would have to be in the top 10....top 15 is stretching it in my mind. He is the most accomplished boxer I have witnessed in my lifetime, however I do realize that the overall caliber of modern boxers is subpar to the great champs of the past. Bert Sugar's list may be more fitting but he is fighting in the times that he is fighting, he can't go back in time to challenge his predecessors.Don't even follow that list. ESPN did a horrible job with this list. There too biased to the modern era. They didn't even put Harry Greb in the top 10 FFS. No Charles Burley, no George Dixon, or no Bob Fitszimmons. Also to have Oscar De la Hoya over Michael Spinks also a joke. And, to have Whitaker that low is just idiotic. This ESPN list should of never been taken seriouslyComment
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seriously......Don't even follow that list. ESPN did a horrible job with this list. There too biased to the modern era. They didn't even put Harry Greb in the top 10 FFS. No Charles Burley, no George Dixon, or no Bob Fitszimmons. Also to have Oscar De la Hoya over Michael Spinks also a joke. And, to have Whitaker that low is just idiotic. This ESPN list should of never been taken seriouslyComment
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