Where Do You Rank Floyd as an ATG?

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  • Snoopyboymason
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    #31
    Originally posted by killakali
    you must have missed pac's mexican wars against HOFers.

    Mayweather’s Notable victories.
    130 lbs- Gernaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Diego Corrales, Angel Manfredy.
    135 lbs- Jose Luis Castillo (x2)* HBO’s Harold Lederman scored their first fight 115-111 for Castillo.
    140 lbs- De Marcus Corley, Arturo Gatti.
    147 lbs- Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton.
    154lbs- Oscar De La Hoya.

    Paquiao’s Notable Victories.
    122 lbs – Lehlohonolo Lebwaba, Nedal Hussein.
    126 lbs- Marco Antonio Barrera.
    130 lbs-Eric Morales (2x), Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Oscar Larios.
    135 lbs-David Diaz.
    140 lbs- Ricky Hatton.
    147 lbs- Oscar De La Hoya.
    145 lbs- Miguel Cotto.
    He was great in the Lebwaba fight what was the main event that night? i thought JMM beat him twice not being picky but do you think he beat peak a Barrera/Morales

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    • Killa_Kali
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      #32
      Originally posted by Snoopyboymason
      He was great in the Lebwaba fight what was the main event that night? i thought JMM beat him twice not being picky but do you think he beat peak a Barrera/Morales
      barrera was the champion when his corner threw the towel, am i correct? or did he get shot overnight?

      morales beat pac and he's suddenly past prime in their second fight?

      the jmm fight results could have gone either way. it can be argued that the first, which was ruled as a draw, should have gone to pac because of a judge's scoring error, which was revealed later.

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      • hammerhiem
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        #33
        Mid thirty's

        Which is a shame because he had the skills and division to be so much higher.

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        • Snoopyboymason
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          #34
          Originally posted by killakali
          barrera was the champion when his corner threw the towel, am i correct? or did he get shot overnight?

          morales beat pac and he's suddenly past prime in their second fight?

          the jmm fight results could have gone either way. it can be argued that the first, which was ruled as a draw, should have gone to pac because of a judge's scoring error, which was revealed later.
          I did'nt say they were shot i asked if you thought they were in their primes JMM gave Pacquaio a boxing lesson after the 1st round in their first fight he won clearly imo the 2nd fight was a lot closer but i thought JMM edged it

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          • Killa_Kali
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            #35
            Originally posted by hammerhiem
            Mid thirty's

            Which is a shame because he had the skills and division to be so much higher.
            i agree with your assessment about floyd's wasted potential. like what i've said in a previous post, he could have been top 10 atg if only he walked the talk. he's a great fighter but how will history remember him?
            Last edited by Killa_Kali; 12-13-2009, 08:55 AM.

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            • Killa_Kali
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              #36
              Originally posted by top7gun
              i must give you props... for being well informed.....
              and you're making good arguments too if you want to.

              one thing i'm sure now, you definitely not an alt of talisayen and peyk-peyk,
              coz those two are idiots. you are a lot better than them....
              are you ducking this thunderdome thread, guido?

              pretty ribbons you have, btw.
              Last edited by Killa_Kali; 12-13-2009, 08:52 AM.

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              • S.G.
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                #37
                voted top 30 but i actually meant to vote top 40

                numbers confuse me lol

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                • craigus1990
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  As a Pac fan, I know I'm looking through rose-tinted glasses but Floyd isn't in the top-20 ATGs, IMHO.

                  Even if he beats Pac, I don't think he'll surpass his legacy in the sport.

                  With that out of my chest, it's now your turn to asses Floyd's legacy.

                  Where does he rank in the ATG list? Do explain your ranking likewise.
                  What IF floyd really dominated him and makes him look amatuer? just for kicks?

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                  • JPRINCEOFBOXING
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                    #39
                    shane mosley is a great fighter cause he fight's anybody but went you have pacquaio fighting at catchweight ,went you got mayweather jr not fighting the top fighters in the world we got a problem in the world of boxing..I wouldn't rank any fighter from the new era cause they don't fight like in the 80's or 90's. I'll say this tho cause i can't take nothing away from mayweather talent. He's very fast very smart in the ring has great foot work but his opponents are all hand picks opponents and the same go's for pacquaio what the hell is catchweight?...

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #40
                      Defensively he is better than Duran maybe. But his chin isnt as good we will assume, and he hasnt fought as good fighters as Duran. And offensively he is not as good as Duran as well as many others. So work it out and do the maths.

                      So he is lower than Duran thats for sure.

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