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  • #11
    Originally posted by Sugar man View Post


    He can adjust, but it doesn't work very well against all his high caliber opponents.
    The guy adjust even with high caliber opponents like Mosley, Clottey, etc. but the guy cannot handle volume punching. When Clottey was throwing combinations--Cotto was baffled until he wanted to retaliate.

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    • #12
      Cotto didn't do a lot of stuff he normally used to do in that fight. He would sually just hammer away non stop if a guy stood against the ropes like that but he seems much more tentative than ever now. Doesn't go to the body at all like he used to and doesn't have the same aggression.

      Not only that, but he isn't the smartest fighter out there. Stuff that seems obvious like clinching, not sitting on the ropes when you're getting hammered etc etc, is stuff that Cotto seems content to do, instead of trying to not do.

      I also think his obvious stamina problem started playing on his mind a lot more now. There were times when he could have wailed away on Pac against the ropes but it seemed as if he wanted to conserve energy as if he knew he would gas out really quickly so he stopped and let Pac come off the ropes. Should have just gone for it in hindsight. Hindsight doesn't help though does it.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
        Yes he is, really really is sometimes.
        Just further proof that his lack of a competent corner REALLY hampered his career. I swear to god I could do a better job of drawing up a gameplan and giving in-fight advice than Joe Santiago.
        Last edited by savorduhflavor; 12-11-2009, 12:06 AM.

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        • #14
          Yeah, it was kinda ******.

          Pacquiao's elbows were tucked and everything and Cotto kept throwing those hooks.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by CrackYourJaw View Post
            Yeah, it was kinda ******.

            Pacquiao's elbows were tucked and everything and Cotto kept throwing those hooks.
            Exactly, I was thinking to myself, "Pacquiao's elbows are fucking tucked in, go for the damn mid section". He continues to hit the sides.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
              why didn't Cotto throw a lead straight right hand to the mid section?
              Simple...because he would get tagged multiple times everytime he dropped his right hand.

              His head would basically be a target for Pac's counter-left straight. cotto's movement is too slow to be able to pull those kinds of shots off

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              • #17
                Originally posted by BennyST View Post
                Cotto didn't do a lot of stuff he normally used to do in that fight. He would sually just hammer away non stop if a guy stood against the ropes like that but he seems much more tentative than ever now. Doesn't go to the body at all like he used to and doesn't have the same aggression.

                Not only that, but he isn't the smartest fighter out there. Stuff that seems obvious like clinching, not sitting on the ropes when you're getting hammered etc etc, is stuff that Cotto seems content to do, instead of trying to not do.

                I also think his obvious stamina problem started playing on his mind a lot more now. There were times when he could have wailed away on Pac against the ropes but it seemed as if he wanted to conserve energy as if he knew he would gas out really quickly so he stopped and let Pac come off the ropes. Should have just gone for it in hindsight. Hindsight doesn't help though does it.
                Another thing I've mentioned in the past, clinching. Get off and then clinch. I knew that Cotto's stamina wasn't too good but this was the worst I've seen it.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by rao007 View Post
                  The guy adjust even with high caliber opponents like Mosley, Clottey, etc. but the guy cannot handle volume punching. When Clottey was throwing combinations--Cotto was baffled until he wanted to retaliate.
                  But when he attempts to adjust fighting backwards, he isn't always successful. Against Mosley the jab started to work even in the last rounds, but then Shane started nailing him with right hands. One of them was when Cotto was against the ropes, and they tied up right after. Clottey had him backing up after right hands too, and he continued to catch them. Problem was Clottey is very reluctant finisher.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                    Just further proof that his lack of a competent corner REALLY hampered his career. I swear to god I could do a better job of drawing up a gameplan and giving in-fight advice than Joe Santiago.
                    Without a doubt, anyone one of us could have had a better game plan.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                      When Pacquiao allowed Cotto to attack away; why didn't Cotto throw a lead straight right hand to the mid section? Why was Cotto so content on attacking the sides, knowing that Pacquiao's elbows were well tucked in? I mean seriously, didn't this hit anyone?
                      I keep telling people that it was the same thing up top. All his punches were looping, thats why they didnt hurt Pac. If he had threw some down the pipe then it may have been different but it was easy for Pac to block all those wide shots. Thats why he busted Pac's ear. Floyd will shoot his straight down the pipe

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