Not Looking Good for James Toney Fans.

[Rockin']

What su****ions are those Knives?..........Rockin'

[Tha Greatest]

Yes, it is. But with the drug testing it would be hard to pull it off. Aswell, with the strength will come bulking muscle that would add to their weights. No matter how many roids one might take it will never make them stronger at taking a shot to the chin.........Rockin'

It might not help u take a shot to the chin.....

but it will make u be able to take more low blows.....(which is not a good thing for u guys)

[joeboxer]

Joe Box, how about 25 grand?

25 Grand sounds great. Just remind yourself to pay me after I win.

[Rockin']

Just to clarify something here. I have never seen a fighter using roids. I have never had a fighter admitt to me that he was using roids. It is POSSIBLE though that they would use certain types of roids to induse muscle development and growth, that s all that I have to say.

And Knives, your cool man. I didnt take anything bad from the question. Your good with me, you know that........Rockin'

[Bozo_no no]

And I agree with Roach. If JT comes in at 230 look for him to win the early rounds and fade more and more as the fight goes on.

Agree with Roach all you want.

Toney was interviewd, and said he doesn't let Roach make those decesions for him. He said he respect Roach's opinion, but that he's going to do what he knows will work best for him, because he's the one getting in the ring.

He wants to come in around 227, which is where he was at for the Booker fight. He looked very strong and solid at that weight.

[IwatchBoxing]

James Toney fans? Since when? Everybody made fun of my P4P list for having that "bum" there, but since he put on a Mexican hat, I've seen people like him much more now, I hope he comes in game, this could be a good fight.

[joeboxer]

Agree with Roach all you want.

Toney was interviewd, and said he doesn't let Roach make those decesions for him. He said he respect Roach's opinion, but that he's going to do what he knows will work best for him, because he's the one getting in the ring.

He wants to come in around 227, which is where he was at for the Booker fight. He looked very strong and solid at that weight.

Except that he hurt his arm.

[joeboxer]

now im paranoid with the dateline comment.......... Rockin'

Hey Rockin

I got a bunch of other questions I want to ask you. Or maybe just one.

The reason I think Toney will win is this.

John Ruiz style is to land one effective punch then hold and rest and come back and do it again.

I think that this is a perfect style for Toney because Toney likes to rest too. Toney is much more likely to get one clean shot in then Ruiz is, and then they hug and rest and Toney comes back and does it again.

I see this as a very boring 12 round fight with a lot of resting and a little bit better fighting by Toney.

The reason I am not sure about my theory is that since there is no holding in the ameteurs, I don't know what the effect is of being held is. Does holding someone tire them out??? OR do they get to rest as much as you do?

[joeboxer]

You forgot to mention Turkey sandwiches Run.

[Rockin']

For most, holding on is a rest time, although you are never fully relaxed in a fight.

Whenever somebody held on to me in the gym I was commanded by my trainer to throw him to the canvas. Make him spend the energy to get up and in the impact of the fall. Bronco never liked it much and Tarick cried about it just about, but I had my orders. James should do it to Ruiz, and then tell the ref to have him quit holding him. Either Ruiz will stop or the ref will disqualify James after a couple of throws. Or maybe, better yet, he would start warning Ruiz for flagrant holding and taking points .......Rockin'