I think I have figured Floyd out...

[LoRd EsCoBar]

*** u man floyds has de skills nly cat beatin him ne pwill

yo wish. Floyd will beat Pwill to a pulp. His counter punching is faster than martinez

[OaktownGhost]

I disagree. Everyone on here pretty much knows my stance. I just dont think Floyd wanted to fight those cats at 1st because he didnt feel that he was big enough. He thought he would win but he might lose and he would kill himself if he lost to an inferior cat like Margarito just because he was too big for Mayweather to deal with. He's not going to go out like that. He was coming into the ring at 146 pounds at the time and looked even smaller than that naturlaly while the WW's were all huge & physical. Now I still think he's the smallest guy but he's probably put on 6 or 7 pounds and that makes a huge difference. People dont understand that. I bet anything that if he was the size back then that he is now then he wouldve had no problem fighting those guys. Thats why I think he was definatly going to do it now and still is. If Cotto wouldve won then I have no doubt that he would fight him and I bet anything that after Pac you will see him against a Mosley or whoever.

People dont want to face facts but the truth is that if Floyd had takened those fights at the time then he may not have been undefeated. Does that make him a *****? To same haterz probably so but if you know what he's doing then you shouldnt. Now he's 152 or 153 in the ring. He wouldve had to run for his life against Cotto & Margarito back then. He doesnt have to do that now. People hate on him because them cats lost but its not his fault. They couldve still had stayed on top while he was gone and he still wouldve came back now and had to fight them. People blame him for them losing and looking washed up.

You may be right, but you are disagreeing with me saying he didn't want to fight those guys, yet you yourself admit why he didn't. Manny is small to, yet he fought cotto, would fight Mosley, and anyone put infront of him. If Floyd is better then Manny then why didn't he fight those guys, and why is manny fighting them right now. When all is said, and done Mayweather will go down as one of the greatest technical boxers who ever lived, and a good champ who won titles in multiple divisions, which is not an easy task, but Manny...well he will go down as one of the greatest fighters in the history of boxing, and he will be remembered as a great champ who took on all challenges regardless of size, or weight differential.

[Verstyle]

I think I know why he seldom takes risk inside the ring, and why he avoids certain fighters. I remember him saying that he doesn't want to end up like Ali, so he fights smart. I think really he doesn't want to end up like his dumba** dad, or his uncle who clearly took to much punishment in their day. He looks at them, and the way they talk and says, "**** that I'm not fighting Mosley, Cotto, or anyone who has a chance of leaving me like that." Maybe he is not scared of loosing his 0, as much as he is scared as ending up like his crack head dad, and uncle.

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Keep figuring, keep figuring.

[Bhopreign]

I think I know why he seldom takes risk inside the ring, and why he avoids certain fighters. I remember him saying that he doesn't want to end up like Ali, so he fights smart. I think really he doesn't want to end up like his dumba** dad, or his uncle who clearly took to much punishment in their day. He looks at them, and the way they talk and says, "**** that I'm not fighting Mosley, Cotto, or anyone who has a chance of leaving me like that." Maybe he is not scared of loosing his 0, as much as he is scared as ending up like his crack head dad, and uncle.

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Maybe because punches actually hurt. If every boxer could do what Floyd is able to do in the ring they would surely do it.

[DLT]

You may be right, but you are disagreeing with me saying he didn't want to fight those guys, yet you yourself admit why he didn't. Manny is small to, yet he fought cotto, would fight Mosley, and anyone put infront of him. If Floyd is better then Manny then why didn't he fight those guys, and why is manny fighting them right now. When all is said, and done Mayweather will go down as one of the greatest technical boxers who ever lived, and a good champ who won titles in multiple divisions, which is not an easy task, but Manny...well he will go down as one of the greatest fighters in the history of boxing, and he will be remembered as a great champ who took on all challenges regardless of size, or weight differential.

I disagree. People say that back to me when I make that argument but I totally disagree. 1st off people dont want to admit it but Pac is bigger now than Floyd was when he was first at WW. Thats real. Even back then Floyd was coming into the ring against Zab & Baldy at 146 and Pac was fighting EM at SFW and coming into the ring at 147. Thats why I always laugh so much when people talk about Pac fighting all these big guys and Floyd picking on smaller guys. Go back at look at the weights for all there fights and you will see that its not even close. Matter of fact, its not even close in all of boxing. Floyd has probably fought more bigger opponents than anyone in boxing while Pac has fought more smaller one's. Floyd at SFW came into the ring at 136 pounds, at LW he came in at 139, at SLW he came in at 143, and at WW he came in at 146. Thats real. Pac was always the bigger guy in the ring in all of his fights, even when he was moving up. He just killed himself to make weight while Floyd wanted to move up super quick to chase the Oscar fight. Dont forget that he fought Oscar at 154 despite only being 146 at WW and Oscar just decapitating a huge Mayorga.

I can also pick apart a ton of Pac's resume and already have on here plenty of times so I wont even go into that. Nearly all the so called legends he fought were coming off of bad losses or subpar fights yet Pac was given mad extra credit for the wins. Look at Pac vs Cotto and tell me that he's not better built & stronger than Floyd vs Zab or Baldy. He is without a doubt. On top of that he is doing all this while being a Southpaw which is by far the biggest advantage in boxing. He wouldve easily lost both fights to JMM if he werent a Southpaw. Then you have to again look at the opponents. The Cotto & Margarito that people wanted Floyd to fight were prime killers. This Cotto was through and he for some reason got smaller in every fight. He was night & day from the guy who entered the ring against Cotto. Even Roach said that and thats why they took the fight. Oscar was a zombie and Hatton had just been KO by Floyd and nearly KO by Lazcano. Dont fall for all that stuff like he is doing something legendary. Again, he was already huge at the lower weights so thats why he could move up and then he's facing guys who are big names but had major major major questions at the time

[Sugar Jay]

He won't fight cotto but he will fight the guy that beat the living **** out of cotto?? Lol..you make a lot of sence...

If you think floyd is boring you are not a real fan. His style is like art..lol...no ****....so is pacs style....I just think floyd puts every skill of boxing to use...and perfected it....I think his boxing skills are the best thing to watch as a student of the game....

[OaktownGhost]

I disagree. People say that back to me when I make that argument but I totally disagree. 1st off people dont want to admit it but Pac is bigger now than Floyd was when he was first at WW. Thats real. Even back then Floyd was coming into the ring against Zab & Baldy at 146 and Pac was fighting EM at SFW and coming into the ring at 147. Thats why I always laugh so much when people talk about Pac fighting all these big guys and Floyd picking on smaller guys. Go back at look at the weights for all there fights and you will see that its not even close. Matter of fact, its not even close in all of boxing. Floyd has probably fought more bigger opponents than anyone in boxing while Pac has fought more smaller one's. Floyd at SFW came into the ring at 136 pounds, at LW he came in at 139, at SLW he came in at 143, and at WW he came in at 146. Thats real. Pac was always the bigger guy in the ring in all of his fights, even when he was moving up. He just killed himself to make weight while Floyd wanted to move up super quick to chase the Oscar fight. Dont forget that he fought Oscar at 154 despite only being 146 at WW and Oscar just decapitating a huge Mayorga.

I can also pick apart a ton of Pac's resume and already have on here plenty of times so I wont even go into that. Nearly all the so called legends he fought were coming off of bad losses or subpar fights yet Pac was given mad extra credit for the wins. Look at Pac vs Cotto and tell me that he's not better built & stronger than Floyd vs Zab or Baldy. He is without a doubt. On top of that he is doing all this while being a Southpaw which is by far the biggest advantage in boxing. He wouldve easily lost both fights to JMM if he werent a Southpaw. Then you have to again look at the opponents. The Cotto & Margarito that people wanted Floyd to fight were prime killers. This Cotto was through and he for some reason got smaller in every fight. He was night & day from the guy who entered the ring against Cotto. Even Roach said that and thats why they took the fight. Oscar was a zombie and Hatton had just been KO by Floyd and nearly KO by Lazcano. Dont fall for all that stuff like he is doing something legendary. Again, he was already huge at the lower weights so thats why he could move up and then he's facing guys who are big names but had major major major questions at the time

Okay look I agree with the weight thing, and actually respect Floyd more under those terms because the motthafooka was like 137 fight night at light weight when he fought Corrales who came in like at 150 something I think, so I give him that. He's been fighting bigger guys most of his career, so anyone who says otherwise is a dumbass. Now back to Pacquiao. You make it seem as if he is a bully picking on little guys. Go look at the fight night weight of most of his fight, and you'll see that he did not have this huge weight advantage which you claim. The dude is 5'6 fighting Welterweights like Cotto who outweight him come fight night. Give him some respect. Oscar was a zombie I won't argue there, yet Manny took the fight, and no one gave him a chance to win. The only thing he proved in that fight is that he could be a smart boxer because he was pretty calm, and taking his time dismantling Oscar instead of getting reckless. Hatton was just coming of an impressive win over Paulie, so don't make it seem as if he took Manny right after getting KO'd with Floyd. No one expected him to get knocked down the way he did. That was ****ing amazing. I thought they were going to go to war, but Pacquiao destroyed him. Regardless Hatton is still a good fighter. Foreman destroyed Frazier, yet Frazier came back and gave Ali a tought fight, so don't make it sound as if a knock out is the end of the world, or of a career, because many fighters have come back from knockouts, and did alright. The only reason you say Floyd softened Hatton is because Manny took him out so easy, yet the same scenerio would have occured if Manny would have faced him first. Are you serious about Cotto? Roach didn't want the fight at first. What are you talking about? Roach wanted to drain Cotto to 143 because he thought Cotto at 147 would be to much for Manny. Roach was scared at first, and if you followed the pre fight Hype you would know that. He is a smart guy, and after studying Cotto, and training Manny he came to the conclusion that Cotto would be easy work for Pacquiao, but don't try to act as if he was handpicked, because if it was up to Roach Manny would have not fought Cotto. How was he huge at the lower weights? Everyone cuts weight and Manny is no exeption. Anyways I like discussing boxing with you, yet you sound slightly biased.

[punchdrunk7]

i think i know why he seldom takes risk inside the ring, and why he avoids certain fighters. I remember him saying that he doesn't want to end up like ali, so he fights smart. I think really he doesn't want to end up like his dumba** dad, or his uncle who clearly took to much punishment in their day. He looks at them, and the way they talk and says, "**** that i'm not fighting mosley, cotto, or anyone who has a chance of leaving me like that." maybe he is not scared of loosing his 0, as much as he is scared as ending up like his crack head dad, and uncle.

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you are the ******* president. Die please.

[OaktownGhost]

you are the ******* president. Die please.

Did you not read my post where I said Floyd probably beats Pacquiao you dumbass. 50-40 in favor of Floyd from my point of view. Now go to sleep you probably have a bed time.

[punchdrunk7]

[QUOTE=BoxingOakland;6928510]Did you not read my post where I said Floyd probably beats Pacquiao you dumbass. 50-40 in favor of Floyd from my point of.




YOU ARE A *******. YOU DON'T KNOW ****. NOW SHUT THE **** UP *****.