Hearns legacy unfairly skewed?

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  • Super_Lightweight
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    Hearns legacy unfairly skewed?

    I was watching Hearns-Leonard I, where Hearns outboxes (of all things) Sugar Ray Leonard for the first 5 rounds, then gets hurt and the bout shifts to Leonard for a few rounds, then Hearns regains control but not without more unsteady waters. Hearns is winning and ahead by a lot it seems when Leonard hurts Hearns again in the 14th round. The ref stops the fight with Hearns ahead. The bout appeared to be stopped prematurely. The announcers were really blown away that it was stopped. Hearns was hurt but could have continued in my eyes.

    In the rematch Hearns beats Leonard, according to Leonard HIMSELF, but is only given a draw. With these things in mind, why is Hearns less highly regarded in historic terms than Leonard? In fact, one could argue Hearns was better than Ray. However, is it possible people do not give enough credit to Hearns because they feel p4p he was bigger than Ray and had they been the same size Hearns would have lost more convincingly? Or does it have nore to do with Hearns not holding an official "W" over Ray even though he should have at least one.

    Maybe it has to do with Ray's defeat of Hagler and Hearns' loss to the same man? Thoughts?
  • puppy_dogg
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    no way. the commentators made a big deal about it but hearns was hurt and it was over. even emanuel steward said it was over, and you know how much he loves tommy.

    "thomas did'nt have enough energy to even keep his body erect"
    -emanuel steward

    people should not try to take away from ray leonard in that fight, he came from behind, he hurt tommy and finished it like a champion

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    • Super_Lightweight
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      #3
      hmm

      I think Ray showed some grit in that fight. Don't take away from him at all. Just wondering how people felt about this. Preesh.

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      • puppy_dogg
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        i was'nt attacking you lightweight. i would'nt do that to another jones fan even if i hated you

        it was an excellent boxing performance by hearns and a great heart and comeback by leonard. ray was moving SO much in the early rounds. damn thats stamina

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        • oldgringo
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          I think the stoppage in the first bout was a bit premature, as Ray hit Tommy with a couple good shots and then backed off, and it seemed like the ref was waiting for that so he could tap Ray on the arm and call it off. Anyway, Hearns was on his way to being KO'ed or hurt badly anyway, so it was a legit win.

          Leonard is still the king of 80's gift decisions and he's about dead even with Hearns all-time in my book.

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          • dansweeney
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            i think hearns on his "best" night could have taken out anybody who ever fought from 147-160, that includes hagler. they should have rematched. if hearns chin were a tad better he could have very well never lost, that is how good his skills were

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            • oldgringo
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              Hearns looked damn near unstoppable at 154...

              I don't think he would ever beat Hagler, simply because, well, its rediculously hard to get away from a prime Hagler and not eat all kinds of punishment. Leonard and Hearns fought the older, slower, slightly diminished version of Hagler. I think Hagler, with a different plan, kills Ray Leonard if they were to fight again...but then again thats all ifs and buts...

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              • SnoopySmurf
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                #8
                The way Hearns beat Duran still has me in a daze. *shakes head slowly*

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                • Tha Greatest
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                  Hearns was a great champion that fell short one his 2 biggest fights, theres a diff between leonard and Hearns...Hearns was the peoples champion, everyone loved him, he cared about them like they cared about them...the way he destroyed Cuevas and Duran , just shocking, Leonard should've gave Hearns a rematch earlier at 147-154, Hearns would've destroyed him...
                  Hearns would knock out DeLaHoya, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, and any of our middleweights today in less than 6 rounds each IMO...

                  I love Thomas Hearns, and know not cuz of his race, hairstyle,last name etc. or because his "puerto rican" (like u PR nuthuggers even though Hearns aint puerto rican hahaha, just sayin)

                  Hearns is a bigger legend the SRL

                  I don't even know why people are comparing Trinidad to Hearns, they were not even close to similar, Hearns would D-E-S-T-R-O-Y Trinidad...

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                  • dansweeney
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
                    The way Hearns beat Duran still has me in a daze. *shakes head slowly*

                    ya, duran never got beat like that, never. vintage hearns

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