Mayweather vs Pacquiao not easy money for either fighter

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  • MANGLER
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    #81
    Nobody is dominatin this fight or scorin a quick KO.

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    • LEFTYGUNZZ
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      #82
      Originally posted by menoari
      I also suspect it is the more defensive Floyd coming for Pac.

      If that is the presumption, I have two things to say then. As a fan, I will expect a more technical (boring to some) fight, granted with Pac being the other guy there will be fireworks one way or the other but not as much if it were the other version of Floyd.

      The other is that Pac may be better off worrying about single or double counters instead of aggressive counter flurries from a defense oriented Floyd. I say this conceding that Floyd is faster and more accurate than JMM counterpunching. IMO it was the counter flurries of JMM that messed up Pac's rhythm in their fights along with the ability of JMM to sit on Pac's left hand. While Floyd may be a better counterpuncher, Pac now has a better right hand making him more difficult to counter punch and his ability to absorb heavy hits may allow him to accept some punishment in order to find openings for his own attacks.
      Finally, I keep thinking of the saying that the punches you don't see are the one that really hurt you. Clearly, both fighters have the capacity to inflict such punches so I will be waiting to see who connects with more of those kind of punches. This I think is the true question in this fight who can land the punches that the other does not see coming.
      Great point i highlighted my man good post and a good observation. I to think PAC is no longer a one handed fighter and is less predictable in his attck. As i have stated on the show he has dropped opponents with both the left and right hand in his last few fights. I think someone will and can be dropped by a punch they don't see coming....Lefty

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        #83
        Originally posted by mangler
        Nobody is dominatin this fight or scorin a quick KO.
        Mang whut up homie? I tend to agree with you to some point but I also want to say although I don' think we will see a 2nd round KO like in the PAC vs Hatton fight a quick KO is not out of the realm of possibilities. A quick KO doesn't mean it was an easy money fight. I mean look at Hagler vs Hearns. Those two guys dished and took more punishment in the 3 rounds they fought than some fighter take or give in three years of fighting. And it ended in an early round KO....Lefty

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          #84
          Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
          I guess non of you Pac fans blasting the board right now want to get a logical debate going on here??? ....Lefty
          The fight is crazy to me because Pac with the speed and power vs Mayweathers defense and boxing. Im not sure what to expect Mayweather has more than one he can approach the fight witch adds to the intrigue. Pac can provide a different type of pressure but may have to fight more disiplined than usual. I expect Pac punch output to drop a bit at times in order to set up traps. I doudt we see Floyd on the ropes much rolling the shoulder. I think he keeps it at range in the middle of the ring and switches to southpaw a couple times to give Manny different looks. I change my mind on how this fight plays out daily

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            #85
            Originally posted by mitruth
            The fight is crazy to me because Pac with the speed and power vs Mayweathers defense and boxing. Im not sure what to expect Mayweather has more than one he can approach the fight witch adds to the intrigue. Pac can provide a different type of pressure but may have to fight more disiplined than usual. I expect Pac punch output to drop a bit at times in order to set up traps. I doudt we see Floyd on the ropes much rolling the shoulder. I think he keeps it at range in the middle of the ring and switches to southpaw a couple times to give Manny different looks. I change my mind on how this fight plays out daily
            Defintely one way the fight could play out in my mind. Floyd keeping the fight at range will require the use of a JAB. I have said it before you don't get to this level without having a good jab. Floyd also has a laser beam of a lead right hand. I expect him to time and use his right hand. As for the switching to south paw I didn't expect that I do expect to see Floyd on the ropes at times shoulder rolling. He got there with ODLH and I think PAC can apply enough pressure and hit him a time or two to back Floyd up. Floyd fights well backing up and moving around the ring so PAC will have to cut off the ring better in this match....Lefty

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              #86
              Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
              Defintely one way the fight could play out in my mind. Floyd keeping the fight at range will require the use of a JAB. I have said it before you don't get to this level without having a good jab. Floyd also has a laser beam of a lead right hand. I expect him to time and use his right hand. As for the switching to south paw I didn't expect that I do expect to see Floyd on the ropes at times shoulder rolling. He got there with ODLH and I think PAC can apply enough pressure and hit him a time or two to back Floyd up. Floyd fights well backing up and moving around the ring so PAC will have to cut off the ring better in this match....Lefty
              Does anyone see Pacquiao fighting a different type of fight. In what scenario do you see pacquiao winning the fight fellas?....Lefty

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              • menoari
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                #87
                Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                Does anyone see Pacquiao fighting a different type of fight. In what scenario do you see pacquiao winning the fight fellas?....Lefty
                Just my own idea but I would like to see Pac come out aggressive, considering a defensive counterpuncher naturally begins without an actual "feel" of the speed and angles of an attacking fighter. Best chance of taking a lead, flash KD or KO. If Pac gets a lead he has a better chance of dictating tempo later in the fight if Floyd is behind on the cards (Floyd needing to make up a lead will prevent him from getting on his bike and defensive). If the opening rounds end with Floyd ahead and Floyd already able to properly time Pac, Floyd can make it a defensive fight, giving Pac less chances to successfully attack him. Both of them will be in great shape and save for the surprise punch for KD or KO will require a lot of accumulated damage to start gassing in late rounds.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                  I will tell you this much anyone who think one guy is going to walk through the other is gravely mistaken. For each fighter better be prepared and is going to be in the fight of their lives.
                  The size difference is not that much. The edge goes to Mayweather as far as being the bigger man.

                  The speed difference is not that much I would say Pacquiao may be a little faster as far as hand speed and combinations.

                  The power goes to Pacquiao. The ring generalship goes to Mayweather.

                  Boxing ability goes to Mayweather by a larger margin than any of the other categories.

                  Explosiveness goes to Pacquiao. We have all seen what he can do when going on the attack and tryng to finish his guy.

                  COunter punching goes to Mayweather and he is going to get alot of opportunities to capitalize on that edge.

                  This si going to be a war and for all the chips winner takes the P4P title and supreme reign as cash cow in the industry. For all you Pac fans out there saying it is easy money for your favorite fighter your are gravely mistaken. I think styles make fights and although Floyd is not going to be in for a walk in the park the edge where it counts in style goes to Floyd.....Lefty

                  Werd..


                  As a Pacfan.. this is a 50/50 fight...

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                    I guess non of you Pac fans blasting the board right now want to get a logical debate going on here??? ....Lefty
                    The boxer has the clear edge. Floyd is a superior Boxer.

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                    • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by menoari
                      Just my own idea but I would like to see Pac come out aggressive, considering a defensive counterpuncher naturally begins without an actual "feel" of the speed and angles of an attacking fighter. Best chance of taking a lead, flash KD or KO. If Pac gets a lead he has a better chance of dictating tempo later in the fight if Floyd is behind on the cards (Floyd needing to make up a lead will prevent him from getting on his bike and defensive). If the opening rounds end with Floyd ahead and Floyd already able to properly time Pac, Floyd can make it a defensive fight, giving Pac less chances to successfully attack him. Both of them will be in great shape and save for the surprise punch for KD or KO will require a lot of accumulated damage to start gassing in late rounds.
                      This is what GG and I discussed the other night on GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT with Horus....If PAC puts rounds in the bank early on due to activity he will make it a different fight late in the rounds and we may see Roger telling Floyd he got to stand in the middle of the ring and fight. This is what Horus said he would want to seehappen but as a FMJ fan he is up in the air but selfishly he would want to see it as a boxing fan. I think this is the way Pacquiao can win or has the best chance to win. So I agree with you on this and although I still see FMJ taking the fight I sned you some green K.....Lefty

                      Originally posted by Gutz
                      Werd..


                      As a Pacfan.. this is a 50/50 fight...
                      As a fan of boxing I hope we see a competitive fight with some explosive fire works....Lefty

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