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  • LEFTYGUNZZ
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    #51
    Originally posted by NYU Alum
    Lefty,

    I think you made some great points. The most important thing (to me) in any fight is intelligence.

    Who do you feel is the smarter fighter?
    I feel Mayweather fights with better intellegence I think Pacquiao fights with emotion. The reasons why we love to see him fight. he brings it everytime. I think if Pacquiao can force Mayweather to fight and not box than we got an exciting fight on our hands but if it gets into a cerebal fight tthan mayweather is going to snooz his way to a victory...lefty

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      #52
      Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
      I pose another question here in this thread about the big fight.

      If the venue is set for Vegas who does it favor?

      If the venue is set for Dallas who does it favor?

      Do either venues favor either fighter?

      The 8 ounce gloves do they really favor Manny and why?

      If yoyu think they favor Floyd explain?

      Do you think Manny is gong to get in on the fight hype or do you think this fight needs no hype at all?

      Do you think FLoyd tries to play mind games like ALi?

      Ali was a master of getting inside his opponents head do you think Floyd is trying the sae tatics?.....Lefty
      Anyone got any answers about the above....

      Originally posted by CHIN CHECK
      what's everyone's opinion on Pac's ability to cut off the ring? he's going to need to do that succesfully all night against money. in the cotto fight roach and buboy kept telling him to do so but i didn't really see pac comming through with it. it might have been because he already knew he had the fight one so why bother but i think he needs to work on that particular skill big time for this fight.
      I think he knew Cotto was gun shy and Cotto has not half the power in his hands moving back wards. When Cotto stood and fought PAC got the better of all teh exchanges. PAC even invited Cotto to come in and Cotto denied to throw punches. Cotto was punching from more of a defensive stand point rather than an offeseive stand point after the thrid round with the excetption of the 5th....I think Pac can cut off the ring and w will see in the fight against Mayweather...lefty

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      • Vasyl’s dad
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        #53
        Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
        I will tell you this much anyone who think one guy is going to walk through the other is gravely mistaken. For each fighter better be prepared and is going to be in the fight of their lives.
        The size difference is not that much. The edge goes to Mayweather as far as being the bigger man.

        The speed difference is not that much I would say Pacquiao may be a little faster as far as hand speed and combinations.

        The power goes to Pacquiao. The ring generalship goes to Mayweather.

        Boxing ability goes to Mayweather by a larger margin than any of the other categories.

        Explosiveness goes to Pacquiao. We have all seen what he can do when going on the attack and tryng to finish his guy.

        COunter punching goes to Mayweather and he is going to get alot of opportunities to capitalize on that edge.

        This si going to be a war and for all the chips winner takes the P4P title and supreme reign as cash cow in the industry. For all you Pac fans out there saying it is easy money for your favorite fighter your are gravely mistaken. I think styles make fights and although Floyd is not going to be in for a walk in the park the edge where it counts in style goes to Floyd.....Lefty
        Best post I've seen in months.

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        • LEFTYGUNZZ
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          #54
          Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
          Best post I've seen in months.
          Thanks brother I appreciate it....I am trying to get some intellegent debates going here...Lefty

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            #55
            Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
            I will tell you this much anyone who think one guy is going to walk through the other is gravely mistaken. For each fighter better be prepared and is going to be in the fight of their lives.
            The size difference is not that much. The edge goes to Mayweather as far as being the bigger man.

            The speed difference is not that much I would say Pacquiao may be a little faster as far as hand speed and combinations.

            The power goes to Pacquiao. The ring generalship goes to Mayweather.

            Boxing ability goes to Mayweather by a larger margin than any of the other categories.

            Explosiveness goes to Pacquiao. We have all seen what he can do when going on the attack and tryng to finish his guy.

            COunter punching goes to Mayweather and he is going to get alot of opportunities to capitalize on that edge.

            This si going to be a war and for all the chips winner takes the P4P title and supreme reign as cash cow in the industry. For all you Pac fans out there saying it is easy money for your favorite fighter your are gravely mistaken. I think styles make fights and although Floyd is not going to be in for a walk in the park the edge where it counts in style goes to Floyd.....Lefty
            This fight wont be competitive.They all claim Floyd cant punch yet they all cant wait to get out of that ring when he's dishing his punishment.They all claim Floyd has brittle hands yet he beats them,remember Judah claimed Floyd couldnt punch,just to survive Judah ended up low blowing.

            Manny's speed is not a factor because Floyd is very fast and he can slow people down.Manny hasnt fought someone with that type of versatility,someone who can fight inside and clinch if need be,someone who can block with his elbow the way Floyd does,someone who can dodge when need be.The gap between Manny and Floyd's too big this fight will not be competitive.We dont know which Floyd will show up,is it the Floyd who beat Gatti?Is it the Floyd who beat Hatton?Is it the Floyd who beat Corralles,which Floyd will show up?He changes like a chameleon,he adjust to suit whichever fighter is in front of him.

            We however know the Manny who will turn up,same move everytime and this time the move wont work

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              #56
              this thread is great

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              • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                #57
                Originally posted by Steve Harvey
                This fight wont be competitive.They all claim Floyd cant punch yet they all cant wait to get out of that ring when he's dishing his punishment.They all claim Floyd has brittle hands yet he beats them,remember Judah claimed Floyd couldnt punch,just to survive Judah ended up low blowing.

                Manny's speed is not a factor because Floyd is very fast and he can slow people down.Manny hasnt fought someone with that type of versatility,someone who can fight inside and clinch if need be,someone who can block with his elbow the way Floyd does,someone who can dodge when need be.The gap between Manny and Floyd's too big this fight will not be competitive.We dont know which Floyd will show up,is it the Floyd who beat Gatti?Is it the Floyd who beat Hatton?Is it the Floyd who beat Corralles,which Floyd will show up?He changes like a chameleon,he adjust to suit whichever fighter is in front of him.

                We however know the Manny who will turn up,same move everytime and this time the move wont work
                While I agree with most of what you said I don't think it will an easy fight. Manny has the speed to make Floyd pay. he also has the south paw stance which will get his straight left in between Floyds guard. The side to side movement and head movement as well. The fact remains that he has become a much better fighter since his last clash with JMM is evident in his right hand. The use of his right hand has become the turning point in his career. it is what turned him from a exciting fighter to one of the best in the world.

                You say the same move and which are you speaking about the left hand and duck under to the right/ or the left tot the body and the hook to the head? Maybe it is the one two left right combo withthe striaight lead left hand? he has many moves and for some to say it is the same move evey time it is ignorant of them. Hatton thought is was the same move and look what happened to him? I am not saying hatton is anywhere near the same level of fighter as FMJ but it is not as simple as guarding against one move. Tyson had one main move back in the day left hook to the body followed by an upper cut. Everyone and their moms knew it was coming and still got caught with it...Like he said everyone has a plan until they get hit...Lefty

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                  Thanks brother I appreciate it....I am trying to get some intellegent debates going here...Lefty
                  I'm feeling that.

                  At this point, and in every other fight, I usually leave my predictions until the day before the actual scrap. I like to see how the camps went, the weigh-ins and all that.

                  This is not a walk in the park for either guy and I'd be surprised if it was. 5050 all the way.

                  For the record, I give Floyd his due respect for taking on an opponent of this caliber. Doesn't justify the last 5 years in the division, but I've always said I'd give credit when he did get the ball rolling in the right direction.

                  The balls rolling now, especially with Pac at the top of his game. No matter who wins or loses in the ring,

                  we win.


                  Seeing as how Floyd has more trouble using the shoulder roll against southpaws, I'd have to say thats a nice ***** in the armor, especially with Mannys speed and power. With that said, those openings made by Pacs punching is going to make some opportunities for Floyd to come back with his speedy right. I think we're going to see Floyd have to open up more than he has in the past few years because hes really not going to have a choice. I know the stanleys love to say hes can't be hit, but thats entirely false. I don't think his usual style of 1 or 2 punches is going to work against someone who throws multiple punches with power, from the southpaw stance, in his prime.

                  Its possible Floyd may surprise us all and open up a full arsenal he may have been saving for this particular moment.

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                  • THE REED
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                    Thanks brother I appreciate it....I am trying to get some intellegent debates going here...Lefty
                    Congratulations, you are now sailing around with Larry with that statement.

                    Sig worthy!

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                    • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      Congratulations, you are now sailing around with Larry with that statement.

                      Sig worthy!
                      REED I don't know if it is a compliment or you are trying to abuse me but thanks brother....Lefty

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