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  • Originally posted by HM_Luke View Post
    ChopperRead - Did Ruiz beat Valuev? so why bring that **** up. Haye beat Valuev, something a lot of fighters couldn't do. Game plan = spot on.

    You can watch all of these american bums fighting Valuev and KO brothers, notice the pattern? all stand in front of them and eat jabs all night and they have all LOST. If a game plan which is called 'running' beats them then why should he not use it?
    A decision that is official doesn't necessary mean that it stands true. If you were a genuine boxing enthusiast, then this would ring true. Ruiz, like Holyfield, clearly beat Valuev in convincing fashion. Enter Haye, who got the decision after backpeddling for the entire contest. The injustice here is quite obvious.

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    • Originally posted by HM_Luke View Post
      1) He was all set to fight Wlad, but you do know the company paying him millions refused to pay first because they were in money trouble? and they actually went bankrupt so he would of not got his money at all.

      Who the **** would fight for free?

      2) Vitali made outrageous demands. If Vitali wanted to fight Haye he wouldn't of made such ****** terms?

      3) Haye is a heavyweight champion. He needed to beat Valuev if he wanted to unify the division. Also it gives him much more power when they next sit down to discuss terms.

      4) Anyone who thinks Haye doesn't want to fight KO brothers are ******.
      Again, you haven't seen the contract and you're downright lying about fighting for free. HE DOESN'T WANT TO FIGHT THE KLITSCHKOS, HE HAD HIS CHANCE AND BACKED OUT.

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      • Originally posted by edgarg View Post
        It depends. As far as I know, the only contracts which require documentary proof, are for Real Estate. Other contracts can be held as being legal, if there is a witness, sometimes two witness to the verbal agreement. There may be others considering that the world has chjanged since I was in Law School.

        Usually the judge thrashes it out anyway, and there must exist a plethora of precedents, which can be used. That's how lawyers make their money,. and, don't forget, 50% are proven to be wrong..........
        if thats true why aint hayes ass been in the fcking court room???

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        • Originally posted by HM_Luke View Post
          Klitschko2009 - You know Vitali made outrageous demands in the contract? seems to me he didn't really want to fight Haye.

          VITALI DUCKED HAYE.
          Funny how every single other fighter on the ****ing planet fights Vitali and doesn't worry about the "demands". Why? Because they want the opportunity to fight him.

          David doesn't want that opportunity.


          This will all be settled when Ruiz beats him anyway. I'm picking Ruiz by UD over Haye, possible late round TKO.

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          • Originally posted by braddman View Post
            Funny how every single other fighter on the ****ing planet fights Vitali and doesn't worry about the "demands". Why? Because they want the opportunity to fight him.

            David doesn't want that opportunity.


            This will all be settled when Ruiz beats him anyway. I'm picking Ruiz by UD over Haye, possible late round TKO.
            I agree. I think Ruiz is going to expose Haye as the fraud he is. Late round TKO sounds very probable to me. I'll be putting some cash down on the Quiet Man for this one.

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            • Originally posted by braddman View Post
              Again, you haven't seen the contract and you're downright lying about fighting for free. HE DOESN'T WANT TO FIGHT THE KLITSCHKOS, HE HAD HIS CHANCE AND BACKED OUT.
              He whines about a "slave contract" at the same time he says he can KO both Klitschkos with ease. That's not a "slave contract," then, it's a golden opportunity to take over the HW division, and Haye chose to fight for Valuev's worthless trinket of a belt instead. Now he's Sauerland / King's "slave" for the next three fights. To quote Dan Rafael: "Listen to me when I say this and listen clearly: Sauerland has options on future Haye fights. Period."

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              • the klitschkos need a win over hate now more than ever! He's got a belt! They say they don't need him but their legacy depends on it.the 2 best wins for wlad were the chris Byrd wins,vitalis best win is vs who? Oh yeah nobody! He lost to Byrd & lewis'....at least wlad beat Byrd twice & former champ Rahman(who was in terrible shape).haye is world champ & he beat valuev who neither klit fought.they need haye more than he needs them.haye has golden boy to back him.the biggest $ maker ever in the sport.haye will be rich regardless & has his time to forge out a legacy while vitali has few fights left.no big names on vitalis winning resume.

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                • good fights

                  these will make for good fights, whatever happens of these 3. haye is good for the sport in that he's garnering some attention but I dont know know many true boxing fans that give David a shot against either. I dont, maybe Wlad caus eof the chin butg Vitali is strong as *** and David cant handle it, I'm sure of that. But lets get it on, nothing like 240+ pound guys beating the **** out of eachother on a saturday night.

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                  • Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                    the klitschkos need a win over hate now more than ever! He's got a belt! They say they don't need him but their legacy depends on it.the 2 best wins for wlad were the chris Byrd wins,vitalis best win is vs who? Oh yeah nobody! He lost to Byrd & lewis'....at least wlad beat Byrd twice & former champ Rahman(who was in terrible shape).haye is world champ & he beat valuev who neither klit fought.they need haye more than he needs them.haye has golden boy to back him.the biggest $ maker ever in the sport.haye will be rich regardless & has his time to forge out a legacy while vitali has few fights left.no big names on vitalis winning resume.
                    LOL. You don't think Wlad and Vitali are rich? They make between 9-12 million Euros per fight. They are far richer than Haye will ever be. Vitali's (and Wlad's) problem is that everybody he fights is supposed to be a world beater, like Sam Peter, or JC Gomez or even Cris Arreola, all of whom were talked up by many as being "saviors of the heavyweight division" ATG-type fighters until Vitali beat them easily (same thing with Calvin Brock until Wlad KO'd him brutally), after which the Peter and Gomez and Arreola fans vanished and under new names began calling the same fighters "shot" and "tomato cans." No matter who Vitali beats, it will be the same thing. If he did fight Haye and KO'd him in three rounds, the same people now saying he needs to fight Haye to make his legacy will be saying all Vitali did was beat a "blown-up cruiser with a glass jaw." This is undeniably true. I think most objective observers already know that, based on their dominance of the HW division over this almost-done decade, the Klitschkos will go down as HOF-ATG heavyweights. The division wasn't as deep as it was in the mid-1970s, but neither was it when Marciano or Joe Louis or Larry Holmes ruled the division either, and it hasn't hurt their legacies that badly. Again, to quote Dan Rafael, Vitali on a good night could give any heavyweight in history trouble. You think Lennox would have turned down a mega-millions heavyweight rematch with Vitali if
                    he thought he had any kind of a chance of winning?

                    Size, skill, fitness, power, ability to take a hard shot -- look at Vitali's KO%, look at the fact that he's only lost a handful of rounds in his entire career. David Haye is jealous because as a heavyweight he's done nothing of note. His win over a shot Monte Barrett was sloppy, as even Haye admitted that Barrett knocked him down, and his win over Valuev was a gift from the judges. To suggest that Vitali needs to beat someone with that resume in order to be considered a great heavyweight is funnier than anything David Haye has ever said. As someone said earlier, when Ruiz stops Haye all of this silly talk will be over, and the Vitali haters will have to find someone else to elevate.
                    Last edited by ChopperRead; 12-10-2009, 12:09 AM.

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                    • hahah haye sure is a douche. but i gotta admit he's pretty funny. frankly i think vitali would murder him. wlad would just jab him to death and throw a right in the final 10 seconds of the 12th round (boring but effective). he has a chance at beating wlad but no way against vitali. let's face it though, as good as his performance was against valuev, the klitchkos are still the only names in the heavyweight division. after ruiz, haye should have another fight at heavyweight here in the states to build his name and sweeten the pot for the fight against one of the klitchkos. maybe against arreola.

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