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  • rommel357
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    #231
    Originally posted by boxingfan76
    the first round, cotto outboxed the crap outta pac and demonstrated, that a rt handed stylecan beat pacman ,pacman is beatable.
    So your logic is that Cotto outboxed Manny in the first round therefore he outboxed Manny through out the whole 12 rounds? Are you serious? Why don't you just check the punch stats and see how much advantage Manny had. BTW, never said Manny is unbeatable, anyone is beatable.

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    • paulf
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      #232
      Floyd is going be on the canvas man. Pacquiao is just too damn good at this point. 24/7 ratings are going to be INSANE.

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        #233
        Originally posted by rommel357
        So your logic is that Cotto outboxed Manny in the first round therefore he outboxed Manny through out the whole 12 rounds? Are you serious? Why don't you just check the punch stats and see how much advantage Manny had. BTW, never said Manny is unbeatable, anyone is beatable.
        I think he means, when Cotto was using technical boxing skills, he had
        Manny confused and was controlling the fight but once Cotto abandoned
        that plan he became a lamb to the slaughter. Manny throughout his career
        has had problems with pure boxers and I think that is not far fetch to believe.

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        • boxingfan76
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          #234
          well said grustler, counter punching american beatdown on pacyas ass he doesnt even know it yet.mayweathers style is soo made to beat the pacman, life doesnt always go as planned but I think floyd has got this.

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            #235
            Originally posted by rommel357
            So your logic is that Cotto outboxed Manny in the first round therefore he outboxed Manny through out the whole 12 rounds? Are you serious? Why don't you just check the punch stats and see how much advantage Manny had. BTW, never said Manny is unbeatable, anyone is beatable.
            I corrected that. manny is still vulnerable to right hand stance .boxing.jab right hand,simply because hes left-handed its physics no matter how good he is hell never ever get away from that ,roach will never teach him how to get away from that because its a physical impossobility.justa as rt handers vunerable to pacmans left hand missle,pac is very vulnerable to rt hand crosses or right hand anythings.cotto before he freaked out and mentally as wella s physically gave in outboxed pacya in the first rnd, quite easily, floyd has all the tools to do this all 12 rnds.never been beat up,never had his confidence shaken,pac in deepo ****o.

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            • boxingfan76
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              #236
              Originally posted by rommel357
              So your logic is that Cotto outboxed Manny in the first round therefore he outboxed Manny through out the whole 12 rounds? Are you serious? Why don't you just check the punch stats and see how much advantage Manny had. BTW, never said Manny is unbeatable, anyone is beatable.
              dont act ******, of course because cotto used his boxing skills and demonstrated that pacman is still vulnerable that doesnt mean that mayweather will automatically win.but it certainly is a reminder of the last jmm fight then the morales fight rt -hander boxer-puncher-counterpunchers are pacs ******nite sceintific bro...cmon use ur brain

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              • mockingbird
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                #237
                Originally posted by ncpitbull
                So let me get this straight, Pacman beat a "prime" Barrera? Barrera was 63-5, when he fought Pacman. How many fighters are possibly in their prime after 68 fights? He beat a Ricky Hatton that was two fights removed from the Mayweather knock out loss, and and one fight removed from a tough referee aided juan lazcano victory! And Cotto who was 5 months removed from the Clottley war and 2 fights total removed from a knockout loss! And you some how consider these fighters to be in the prime? Why? Even EriK Morales had 52 fights when he met Pacman. And If De lahoya was still good and "VERY BIG", then what was he, when Floyd beat him??? So if it Hatton was in his prime when Pacman beat him at 45-1, what was he when Floyd beat him at 43-0?
                let me get this more straight. yes, pacman beat a prime barrera. just look how he performed against morales after the fight. and he went 0-6-2 after the pac fight.

                and hatton? just look how he performed against malignaggi

                and cotto, its pretty obvious. dont fool yourself. cotto can beat ANYBODY @147, but that is if he stays out of pacs way. its frankly ****** to say cotto was no longer in his prime just because of a not so competitive clottey fight.

                morales was no longer in his prime when he faced pac the second time around. but he was still near in his prime and can actually beat jsut anybody in that weight at that time, save for pac perhaps

                yes hoya was very very big and therefore too dangerous for a lightweight who has fought 90% of his career at 130 and below and who hasnt even gone through junior welterweight yet. and also, HOYA BEAT FLOYD.

                just because a fighter loses to someone or got KOed doesnt mean they are already shot. when you start losing to cab drivers, thats when youre shot. and going by your argument, pac is already shot when he beat barrera, JMM, morales, hatton and hoya. why? he got KOed very badly twice before.

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                • mockingbird
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by boxingfan76
                  obviously ur the junior, delahoya was at his best in the 90s. handpicker. never beat anyone without previous recent losses ,or that isnt old ,or without some kind of massive advantages,since barera.ur not fooling me or anyone *******,we know yor type around here.in fact id be going for pacman against mayweather if not for lunatic fans like yourself.want someone to shut mayweather up but iwant someone to shut up *******s likeyourself a little bit more.
                  lol! this junior is a real funny guy :bukkake:

                  let me tell you once more, hater. Hoya was percieved to be too dangerous for pac in their fight, and im just wondering which cave have you been living because every knowledgeable boxing fans and critics even criticized hoya for taking the fight. that is the point here junior. of course HOya was at his best durign the 90s and nobody here is denying that elementary argument.

                  just because im on pacs side doenst mean im a ******* or whatever. i even picked hoya to obliterate pac into pieces and for hatton to Knock him out cold. and its you whose acting lunatic here. hell i know your type hater. your the type of guy who says every pac win is a fluke and that he cant beat any good people, just shot guys. lol lol lol

                  snap uot of it man

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                  • spinika7
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by mockingbird
                    let me get this more straight. yes, pacman beat a prime barrera. just look how he performed against morales after the fight. and he went 0-6-2 after the pac fight.

                    and hatton? just look how he performed against malignaggi

                    and cotto, its pretty obvious. dont fool yourself. cotto can beat ANYBODY @147, but that is if he stays out of pacs way. its frankly ****** to say cotto was no longer in his prime just because of a not so competitive clottey fight.

                    morales was no longer in his prime when he faced pac the second time around. but he was still near in his prime and can actually beat jsut anybody in that weight at that time, save for pac perhaps

                    yes hoya was very very big and therefore too dangerous for a lightweight who has fought 90% of his career at 130 and below and who hasnt even gone through junior welterweight yet. and also, HOYA BEAT FLOYD.

                    just because a fighter loses to someone or got KOed doesnt mean they are already shot. when you start losing to cab drivers, thats when youre shot. and going by your argument, pac is already shot when he beat barrera, JMM, morales, hatton and hoya. why? he got KOed very badly twice before.


                    C'mon.....be serious!!! Cotto is talking about fighting castillo as his next opponent. That tells you everything you need to know about where cotto is as a fighter atm. He was finished physically and mentally after Margarito (Freddie Roach said as much before the fight with his charge). He looked terrible against Jennings and lost to Clottey full stop!! He took 3 or 4 times as much punishment from Margarito (in all likelyhood with loaded gloves) than from Manny before he went down. Pac practically tapped him on the chin and he got wobbly. Sounds + looks like a fighter who's best days are numbered to me.

                    And don't even get me started about DLH beat Floyd!! Learn to score a fight. Next you will be telling everyone here Zab beat Floyd. Floyd won easily. He took 8 rds MINIMUM (i had Floyd winning 9 rds). DLH got a split because he is DLH "The Golden Boy"!!! If it was any other fighter that night it would have been a UD to PBF.

                    I don't have a problem with fans giving Floyd Mayweather **** or trying to discredit him, but for the love of GOD ALMIGHTY try to use some objectivity or at least know WTF you are actually on about. Some of the assertions fans make on this forum on both sides are down right pathetic and just plain silly!!!

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                    • mockingbird
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by spinika7
                      C'mon.....be serious!!! Cotto is talking about fighting castillo as his next opponent. That tells you everything you need to know about where cotto is as a fighter atm. He was finished physically and mentally after Margarito (Freddie Roach said as much before the fight with his charge). He looked terrible against Jennings and lost to Clottey full stop!! He took 3 or 4 times as much punishment from Margarito (in all likelyhood with loaded gloves) than from Manny before he went down.
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                      so because hes eying castillo as his next opponent then hes shot?

                      Originally posted by spinika7
                      Pac practically tapped him on the chin and he got wobbly. Sounds + looks like a fighter who's best days are numbered to me.
                      lol

                      Originally posted by spinika7
                      And don't even get me started about DLH beat Floyd!! Learn to score a fight. Next you will be telling everyone here Zab beat Floyd. Floyd won easily. He took 8 rds MINIMUM (i had Floyd winning 9 rds). DLH got a split because he is DLH "The Golden Boy"!!! If it was any other fighter that night it would have been a UD to PBF.
                      yes hoya actually beat floyd and one judge actually got it right. its a SD not a clear UD win for floyd in case you dont know. judges score the fight differently. the judge who scored the fight in favor of hoya has obviously put more weight to his "effective aggression" than to the "potshotting" of floyd.

                      thats scoring 101 i just gave you.

                      Originally posted by spinika7
                      I don't have a problem with fans giving Floyd Mayweather **** or trying to discredit him, but for the love of GOD ALMIGHTY try to use some objectivity or at least know WTF you are actually on about. Some of the assertions fans make on this forum on both sides are down right pathetic and just plain silly!!!
                      right on. just read your post here

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