So what went down on here with Williams-Martinez?

[PittyPat]

I can only imagine the uproar with both the decision and the ridiculous scoring. :shk1: Me, I had it a draw at 113-113 (the first round being 9-8 to Williams), but could've accepted either man winning by a razor-thin margin. Anything more than 114-112 is bull****, though - and indeed we saw such bull****.

First-time viewing...

W || 9  | 9  | 9  | 9  | 9  | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9  | 9  | 10 || 113
M || 8  | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9  | 9  | 9  | 9  | 10 | 10 | 9  || 113

I trust most sane folks had that opening round 9-8 to either Williams or Martinez, right? Fuck scoring it 10-9 or 10-10. That's just lazy. One man was better in that round, but suffered a KD himself - hence, you've 9-8. That's how it should be. Actually, scoring any round 10-10 just because it's close is lazy. You pick a winner based on something, or at least eeny-meeny it.

All in all a horrendous year for boxing in terms of scoring, but nonetheless we got a great war out of it. Despite the sloppiness, I'd say it's a potential FOTY candidate, surely?

[Shattered Jaw]

A 9-8 round?

You mean 10-9 and so a draw at 114-114 surely? I don't see your point about '**** scoring it 10-9' when 9-8 is exactly equivalent, except goes against the '10 point must system'.

Also, my card was similar to yours except the 4th round belonged to the Punisher. He was dropping that left hand hard onto the dome of Martinez in that round.

[dans]

A draw is a fair score. I for one had Martinez winning 7 rounds to 5.

[eli porter]

I thought martinez won it clearly enough to feel aggrieved at the decision. he seemed to roll with lots of william's punches while consistently landing the more clean shots.

Though I think people are split. we probably need a poll.

[iron lung]

A 9-8 round?

You mean 10-9 and so a draw at 114-114 surely? I don't see your point about '**** scoring it 10-9' when 9-8 is exactly equivalent, except goes against the '10 point must system'.

Also, my card was similar to yours except the 4th round belonged to the Punisher. He was dropping that left hand hard onto the dome of Martinez in that round.

one guy got knocked down dip**** that immediately makes the round 10-9 FOR Williams but since martinez actually won the whole round it should be 9-9

[El Castigador]

115-113 Williams.

[eli porter]

one guy got knocked down dip**** that immediately makes the round 10-9 FOR Williams but since martinez actually won the whole round it should be 9-9

did you go for a piss when williams got knocked down?

[PittyPat]

A 9-8 round?

You mean 10-9 and so a draw at 114-114 surely? I don't see your point about '**** scoring it 10-9' when 9-8 is exactly equivalent, except goes against the '10 point must system'.

Yeah, I know. It's a confusing way of doing it, and I only figured out the logic recently...

Basically, the round loser is behind at 10-9. He goes down, and it becomes 10-8 (a single point lost). The round winner then goes down too, and it comes up to 9-8 (a single point lost). They shouldn't just get their points back because both went down. The score needs to reflect that.

Also, the 10-point must system goes out of the window when you have a situation where the round winner gets deducted a point for fouling - hence, 9-9, or 9-8 if the round loser went down at any point.

I dunno. It makes sense to me, anyway. Glad to see others having it a draw, nonetheless. That was an extremely tricky fight to score, because both had their moments and were sloppy as hell. Are people crying robbery?

[catalinul]

You can't score a round 9-8.It's a 10 point must system.

I had the fight for Martinez narrowly.

[PittyPat]

You can't score a round 9-8.It's a 10 point must system.

Yes you can. See both Golota-Bowe fights, or any other where the round winner commits a punishable foul.