Comments Thread For: Calzaghe Wants To See David Haye Fight The Klitschkos

[Fox Mulder]

Who did Calzaghe avoid? Hopkins, Jones and Taylor all priced themselves out of fights with him.

a PRIME Hopkins, PRIME Jones, Tarver, G.Johnson, Dawson to name a few. Why didn't he fight them? Calzaghe pulled out of a Johnson fight 2 or 3 times if I remember correctly. Why didn't Calzaghe go to america and fight the best? Lennox Lewis did it, Naseem Hamed did it... hell even Ricky Hatton did it.

[Adamantium]

a PRIME Hopkins, PRIME Jones, Tarver, G.Johnson, Dawson to name a few. Why didn't he fight them? Calzaghe pulled out of a Johnson fight 2 or 3 times if I remember correctly. Why didn't Calzaghe go to america and fight the best? Lennox Lewis did it, Naseem Hamed did it... hell even Ricky Hatton did it.

As I said before those guys priced themselves out, Hopkins demanded an extra 3m on the day the contracts were to be signed. Also there was the Showtime deal were Hopkins was offfered 10m for three fights and the last one would of been against Calzaghe and he turned that down. Calzaghe would of beaten Johnson, but he should of made the fight before he retired that I will admit.

[Fox Mulder]

As I said before those guys priced themselves out, Hopkins demanded an extra 3m on the day the contracts were to be signed. Also there was the Showtime deal were Hopkins was offfered 10m for three fights and the last one would of been against Calzaghe and he turned that down. Calzaghe would of beaten Johnson, but he should of made the fight before he retired that I will admit.

I can admit that Calzaghe maybe would have beaten Johnson but the fact is that he pulled out of it on atleast 2 occasions.

I think though that a prime Jones, prime Hopkins and Dawson would all have whooped slappys ass.

[Adamantium]

I can admit that Calzaghe maybe would have beaten Johnson but the fact is that he pulled out of it on atleast 2 occasions.

I think though that a prime Jones, prime Hopkins and Dawson would all have whooped slappys ass.

Prime Jones would of beaten him, not sure about the other two though. Hopkins lost twice to Taylor and got an undeserved draw against Mercado.
Off topic a bit you seem to be taking this Calzaghe stuff way to seriously.

[Fox Mulder]

Prime Jones would of beaten him, not sure about the other two though. Hopkins lost twice to Taylor and got an undeserved draw against Mercado.
Off topic a bit you seem to be taking this Calzaghe stuff way to seriously.

His fans are just absolutley delusional. Calzaghe was a good fighter, good but not great. He is not any better than Sven Ottke imo. He ruined the reputation of european boxing.

[Adamantium]

His fans are just absolutley delusional. Calzaghe was a good fighter, good but not great. He is not any better than Sven Ottke imo. He ruined the reputation of european boxing.

No way did he do that, Ottke did with all his dubious hometown wins. Calzaghe did what all the other World Champions did, defend their belts inside thier country. Hopkins has only fought once outside of America and so has Jones.
By your same logic Mosely, Holyfield and every other American fighter using PEDs has ruined American boxing.

[Ravens Fan]

Ok fine lets compare their resume's.

ODLH:

Julio Cesar Chavez(x2)
Pernell Whitaker
Hector Camacho
Ike Quartey
Fernando Vargas
Ricardo Mayorga
Oba Carr
Arturo Gatti

Slappys:

Roy Jones Jr(totally shot)
Hopkins(razor thins sd that could have gone either way, espn and associated press had it 114-113 hopkins)
Kessler(got beaten way worse by Ward)
Lacy(a c level fighter who never beat anybody of note)
Eubank

ODLH is a 6 weight world champion.

Calzaghe is a 1 weight world champion.

ODLH always fought the best.

Calzaghe avoided them and stayed home in wales.

Ok, I will step and say it Oscar was overrated. And why do I say this? He fought and beat Chavez when he was around the century mark and in the same time frame when Chavez was being dominated by a fighter by the name of Willy Wise. So, obviously Chavez was way way past his prime. Oscar also beat an old Sweet Pea who happened to never win another fight after he lost to Oscar. He also beat an old Camacho who has had a long career after he lost to Oscar but his only notable win happened be over a 50 year old Duran. Also, Oscar's record from 1999 to 2008 was 8-6 and sure he could beat the limited fighters such as Arturo Gatti but he lost to all the real world class fighters he fought. And it is my opinion that he should have been 7-7 because Sturm also beat him. So, I for one believe Oscar to be way overrated and no one did it here but comparing Oscar to multi division champions such as Henry Armstrong is not only laughable it is also a disgrace.

[Boxing Scene]

First of all he won't beat John Ruiz easily, if at all. No one has dominated John Ruiz except David Tua and that was years and years ago. The closest he's come to really being beat was Toney and that was by a cheater. The other wins were controversial or similar.

I don't see David Haye having an easy time with Ruiz. Ruiz even has the power to knock him out, or TKO him.

[Bogs]

David Haye will fight the Klitschkos eventually, He pulled out of the Wlad fight because Setanta was going broke which means he wouldn't have gotten any money. If you where Haye would you fight for free? I think not.

Maybe Haye will fight one or both of the Klitschko's "eventually". But not in the foreseeable future.

The road is laid out quite clearly for the next three fights: First Ruiz (because he has to, as Ruiz is mandatory), then Hopkins (because Hopkins and Golden Boy wants it) and then the rematch with Valuev (because he has to, due to the Valuev rematch option).

If Haye gets through these fights unharmed, he will have another mandatory in the winner of the Chagaev vs. Meehan eliminator. Haye surely doesn't fight more than twice a year, so we'll be entering 2012 before he will move on.

And by the way, why should Haye face someone like the Klitschkos, like Tua, or any live hard hitting opponent, when fans and media alike will hail him as the new Ali, no matter who he fights, just because he is not from Eastern Europe?

Haye will do it the clever way, the easy way. He's lined up for free money, he won't give that away to a genuine challenge.

[Fox Mulder]

Ok, I will step and say it Oscar was overrated. And why do I say this? He fought and beat Chavez when he was around the century mark and in the same time frame when Chavez was being dominated by a fighter by the name of Willy Wise. So, obviously Chavez was way way past his prime. Oscar also beat an old Sweet Pea who happened to never win another fight after he lost to Oscar. He also beat an old Camacho who has had a long career after he lost to Oscar but his only notable win happened be over a 50 year old Duran. Also, Oscar's record from 1999 to 2008 was 8-6 and sure he could beat the limited fighters such as Arturo Gatti but he lost to all the real world class fighters he fought. And it is my opinion that he should have been 7-7 because Sturm also beat him. So, I for one believe Oscar to be way overrated and no one did it here but comparing Oscar to multi division champions such as Henry Armstrong is not only laughable it is also a disgrace.

no one did it here... then why bring it up? I have never seen anybody say ODLH is as good as Armstrong.

ODLH is better than Joe Calzaghe. he beat better fighters, always fought the best and became a champ in 6 weight divisions. That is all I'm saying.