Good Post on Roach, Pac and Roids.

[GG Marquez]

1. Pac is a devastating puncher at 130 and below. Only in the Hatton fight did he demonstrate a one-shot KO/KD. The rest are accumulation shots or catching Cotto lunging/off-balance. KO Tua??? WTF!!!
2. Jmm caught Pac offbalance and jumping back. A great combo to be sure but it did not hurt pac that much. He shook it off. The cotto fight only proves that he has a great chin. He got hurt but he just pretended not be. Proof : Pac said so ... plus a cauliflower ear.
3. Cannot comment. No idea. A link to such a story would be great. thanks. Does this mean all fighter training at WC is suspect?
4. Toney but I could not recall any other fighter. This reason would make all Roach trained fighters suspect.
5. Eh! Does this mean Roach's acquaintances is also suspect?
6. Widespread observation. Did anyone really compare his head or hand size? I mean a real scientific measurement not subjective photographic impressions.
7. He is an outlier but no means is he the only one. Check out Mark Jason Melligen. Pinoy WW boxer. Roughly the same size.
8. One-in-a-million is a subjective observation. But given that odds, it would be right. How many Pacquiao-type fighters do we see today?
9. Pbf's record on 5 division title reign with no losses is also too good to be true. Does that mean he is a roider?
10. hahaha. Great reason. China is going to be very angry with him. Anyways, yes PI have lots of nurses. But their main reason is for work abroad for the $$$. Asian RIM is too big. If you randomly pick 1 Asian out of the "RIM", chances are you would also get 1-in-a-20 million chance he is a roider.

This are all circumstantial evidences. He should have mentioned that he is a right-brained type of guys considering his statements.

SOOOO, the defense is ten "true, but's"?

Gotcha.

I'm deciding to roll with DiBella on this. I don't know if Pacquiao is using. But there is something fishy, and it is appropriate to ask questions. I don't know if he is using.

[jrosales13]

Honestly, No. Pacquiao and Mayweather have had an opposite effect when moving up. That's not to be an *******, only my honest answer.

THen honestly bro you just being hater/nuthugger. You having a double standard. Floyd had more problems against men his own size than people who were bigger than him. So I don't know when the opposite effect from moving up comes from. He has dominated every bigger fighter that he has faced. Was you shocked when Roy got busted?

[jrosales13]

SOOOO, the defense is ten "true, but's"?

Gotcha.

I'm deciding to roll with DiBella on this. I don't know if Pacquiao is using. But there is something fishy, and it is appropriate to ask questions. I don't know if he is using.

You really do believe he is using and that is fine that is your right your opinion.

Answer my question would you be shocked if Mayweather was using? Be honest...

[tibbar]

Didn't he say "imported"?

You seriously getting stuck on "eleventy billion". Dude made a bad joke. And you are winding on that. LOL @ you.

yeah, take his deeck off your mouth once in awhile, stop defending him like hes a ****** that needs your defense. and LOL @ you too for acting like hes your son.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Then honestly bro you just being hater/nuthugger. You having a double standard. Floyd had more problems against men his own size than people who were bigger than him. So I don't know when the opposite effect from moving up comes from. He has dominated every bigger fighter that he has faced. Was you shocked when Roy got busted?

I'm neither, I've watched enough of Mayweather to tell you this.

[GG Marquez]

You really do believe he is using and that is fine that is your right your opinion.

Answer my question would you be shocked if Mayweather was using? Be honest...

Surprised:
Williams
mayweather
martinez
cintron
bradley
cotto

not surprised:
Pacquiao
Berto
Mosley again
donaire
guzman
Urango

[Kalion]

1. Pac is a devastating puncher at 130 and below. Only in the Hatton fight did he demonstrate a one-shot KO/KD. The rest are accumulation shots or catching Cotto lunging/off-balance. KO Tua??? WTF!!!
2. Jmm caught Pac offbalance and jumping back. A great combo to be sure but it did not hurt pac that much. He shook it off. The cotto fight only proves that he has a great chin. He got hurt but he just pretended not be. Proof : Pac said so ... plus a cauliflower ear.
3. Cannot comment. No idea. A link to such a story would be great. thanks. Does this mean all fighter training at WC is suspect?
4. Toney but I could not recall any other fighter. This reason would make all Roach trained fighters suspect.
5. Eh! Does this mean Roach's acquaintances is also suspect?
6. Widespread observation. Did anyone really compare his head or hand size? I mean a real scientific measurement not subjective photographic impressions.
7. He is an outlier but no means is he the only one. Check out Mark Jason Melligen. Pinoy WW boxer. Roughly the same size.
8. One-in-a-million is a subjective observation. But given that odds, it would be right. How many Pacquiao-type fighters do we see today?
9. Pbf's record on 5 division title reign with no losses is also too good to be true. Does that mean he is a roider?
10. hahaha. Great reason. China is going to be very angry with him. Anyways, yes PI have lots of nurses. But their main reason is for work abroad for the $$$. Asian RIM is too big. If you randomly pick 1 Asian out of the "RIM", chances are you would also get 1-in-a-20 million chance he is a roider.

This are all circumstantial evidences. He should have mentioned that he is a right-brained type of guys considering his statements.

Why do you think fighters like Floyd, Marquez, Corrales, Hatton just to name a few all seemed to have trouble in thier own way while moving up in weight, but Pac has gotten only stronger and faster?

[GG Marquez]

yeah, take his deeck off your mouth once in awhile, stop defending him like hes a ****** that needs your defense. and LOL @ you too for acting like hes your son.

I chuckle at you getting angry at obvious (well, not to you) attempts at humor. Your emotionalism signals lower-order intelligence on your part.

manila school system?

[jrosales13]

Bonds? I think even the people who hate Bonds and think he should be banned and so on, all say that they think he started using because he was at 1 time the best in the sport and then all these average guys started blowing past him and blowing all his numbers out the water. Thats what I mean by reasons. He had a legit reason. I mean Kobe doesnt have a reason now but if all of assudden guys like Trevor Ariza started averaging 40ppg and so on then it could start to make Kobe think. Thats what happened to Bonds. Didnt RJ use the roids when he was moving up to HW in one swoop? A massive jump in weight? Thats a real reason. Floyd never did that. And 50 cent? Come on now. Floyd will use roids because 50 did it and turned him on to it? Thats funny

Floyd keeping his undefeated record is a good reason to do it. Don't you think

And, Roy got busted while he was still a LHW in his fight with Richard Hall. So he didn't use cuz he was moving up to HW. He was using to face a fellow
LHW.

And, 1 of the main reason of people accusing is cuz of who he knows. So why laugh at the notion of Floyd being friends with 50 cent triple H participate in the WWE. All who have steroids history.

Again you just using a double standard and a hater/nuthugger.

[GG Marquez]

Why do you think fighters like Floyd, Marquez, Corrales, Hatton just to name a few all seemed to have trouble in thier own way while moving up in weight, but Pac has gotten only stronger and faster?

Don't you know? A guy said in the other thread that the Filipino secret is coconut oil.

Plus, Pacquiao has the Filipino genetics that have won all those Olympic gold medals and produced a long and deep pool of world-class athletes.