Good Post on Roach, Pac and Roids.

[tudedude]

This isn't even circumstantial evidence. It's weak ass sophisty... on the most elementry level.

[jrosales13]

I think everyone would be totally shocked if Floyd tested positive. Even the haterz would say that. However, I wouldnt be shocked if Pac stopped him early

I am being real and honest. Call me a hater all you want and I will not be shocked if Mayweather was on steroids. I will not be shocked if any athlete was on steroid. That is the era that we live. And, for anybody who says that he will be shocked that Floyd is on it and not be shocked if Pac is on it. Then you are nothing more than a hater/nuthugger.

[GG Marquez]

This isn't even circumstantial evidence. It's weak ass sophisty... on the most elementry level.

Roffles.



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[barafranca]

I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the day, Floyd is the one caught using steroids. really.

They wont even suspect Floyd since he has not achieved the same Peat that PAC already has and prolly never will

[jrosales13]

DLT,

Where would you be MORE shocked by a positive steroid test. Be honest:

Pacquiao... or Mayweather?

What about you bro cuz DLT was full of **** with his answer. Would you be shocked if Mayweather was on steroids/HGH? Be honest...

[DLT]

I am being real and honest. Call me a hater all you want and I will not be shocked if Mayweather was on steroids. I will not be shocked if any athlete was on steroid. That is the era that we live. And, for anybody who says that he will be shocked that Floyd is on it and not be shocked if Pac is on it. Then you are nothing more than a hater/nuthugger.

read what I wrote on post #30. He's like the #1 guy in all of pro sports that I would say is the least likeliest to be on it. There is no good reason and he was born into the fight game

[tibbar]

FROM AN HBO FORUM .DISCOVERED BY GGMARQUEZ......


Like Paulie Malignaggi, Kermit Cintron, Andre Berto and Floyd, Sr, I am now convinced that Manny Pacquiao is a steroid user. Please note that I am using the word "steroids" to encompass all PED's.

Submitted for your consideration:


]1) Manny Pacquiao went from being a good/solid puncher who wasn't devastating opponents at 130 to being a one-punch guy who is KO'ing bigger men. Manny went 12 rounds with Oscar Larios (a 122 pounder moving up two divisions) but then he KO'd Miguel Cotto. In a short span of time.

I find it odd that the guy who couldn't drop a shot MAB two years ago can now KO David Tua. That is an observation.

its obvious you have known pacquiao for maybe only a couple of years back, you have not followed his career. he was ko'ing opponents sinced he was 106lbs. he went 12 rounds with larios? they fought in the phils. he made a show for his countrymen, he could drop a shot MAB? MAB doesnt want to engage like the first fight.

2) Juan Manuel Marquez landed flush on Pac, and stunned/hurt Pac. Miguel Cotto landed flush on Pac to no effect. Observation.

a well conditioned body is a strong body, a strong body can withstand pressure from a blow especially as one gain weight. and that pacquiao was stunned and hurt is only an opinion.

3) The Wild Card Gym is a hotbed of steroid activity. Many of the athletes at WCG are steroid users. That is fact.

all this statement can get from me is FACT YOU!

4) Freddie Roach's other fighters have used steroids previously. That is also documented fact.

wheres the document, absence of which means this is lie.

5) Some of the guys that Freddie Roach considers as closest to him are chronic steroid abusers: Mickey Rourke and Sylvester Stallone for example. Documented fact.

again Documented FACT YOU to this statement.

6) Pac's head and hands seemed to have gotten bigger. That has been observed by a lot of people. That is also an indicator of mild acro, which is a hGH side effect. That is a widespread observation. to the extent that cartoons and caricatures were made on boxing boards - even before the steroid revelations arose.

yah, andre the giant and valuev is steroid user.

7) Pac's genetics would not seem to indicate this type of physicality. His mother, his father, his brother. Looking more broadly, Pac would be a statistical outlier as an Asian welterweight. This is not a racist/xenophobic statement, but rather a statement of statistical fact.

the key word is "seem", it is not sure only supposition.

8) I went to college on a wrestling scholarship and I wrestled at a high level. I have made weight A LOT, moved up in weight and been around A LOT of guys who have made weight. The ascent of Pac's physiology seems odd. To not piss people off, let me put it in a positive way, and the way that the commentators have: he seems 'one in a million'. This is an observation.

you should go back to college you have missed something, this is an observation.

9) What we have seen is that when something seems too good to be true recently, it HAS been. I look at guys within boxing who moved up alot in weight: Mosley (roider) Jones (roider), Holyfield (roider), Pazienza (roider), etc. This is fact.

nope, only haters seen those.

10) The Philippines are not well known for steroids. Unlike what PBF said. But the PI is well known for a healthcare culture. Many of the immigrants to the US have health-related backgrounds. I've met eleventy billion Filipino nurses, for example. And knocked off a few. Anyway, the Asian Rim (the geographic region, not the sexual trick) does have a thriving market in illicit pharmaceuticals , including steroids, insulin, supplements, bootleg pharma, etc. Most commonly, imported from Chinese labs. This is spec with a basis in fact.

nope, thats a lie, theres no eleventy billion filipino nurses, filipinos numbers on 100 million and filipinos live in the philippines not china, theyre two separate countries, thats why you should go back to college.

That is a quick 10 of A LOT more....

You are entitled to believe whatever you want. I am not trying to convince anybody. But as a left-brained type of guy, if it seems too good to be true, and if it can't be explained.....

yeah, cant be explained just like your heart which is pumping blood and
oxygen to your brain from your birth until now without stopping 24/7 must be roids.

[GG Marquez]

I hope noone using the term "eleventy billion" is trying to be taken seriously.

....or you taking yourself too seriously.

It's a boxing board. Try to unwind the panties a tad.

[GG Marquez]

nope, thats a lie, theres no eleventy billion filipino nurses, filipinos numbers on 100 million and filipinos live in the philippines not china, theyre two separate countries, thats why you should go back to college.
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Didn't he say "imported"?

You seriously getting stuck on "eleventy billion". Dude made a bad joke. And you are winding on that. LOL @ you.

[jrosales13]

read what I wrote on post #30. He's like the #1 guy in all of pro sports that I would say is the least likeliest to be on it. There is no good reason and he was born into the fight game

What are you talking about? Does Barry Bonds ring a bell?

He could be using to remain undefeated?

Roy Jones was #1 in the sport when he got busted?

Floyd is really good friends who with people who been accused of using (50 cent)

So how is Floyd the least likeliest to be on it? I mean is not out of the question that he is using. That makes no sense you just being a hater/nuthugger.