Re : Willaims vs. Martinez- MOST OF YOU ARE IDIOTS.

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  • Lead Cenobite
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    #51
    Originally posted by FeFist
    Said this in another thread.

    The decision going Williams' way was not a robbery. The judge who scored the fight 119-110 showed that he would have robbed Martinez.
    Good point

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    • Lead Cenobite
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      #52
      Originally posted by Mikhnienko
      Completely agree, especially your rational for the fact that Martinez won.
      i have no problem with that assessment....

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      • fightingfigs
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        #53
        Originally posted by .::EyEKoNiK::.
        Calling a fight a draw cuz he wants to sound intelligent and doesn't wanna get bashed from either side? Check
        Paul Deserved the win, but not the 119-110 scorecard

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        • intoccabile
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          #54
          Originally posted by Lead Cenobite
          Knee jerk reactions? Check.
          Not knowing how to score fights? Check.
          No concept of the basic rules of scoring fights? Check.
          Calling close fights robberies? Check.
          Rampant nationalism and bias coming out? Check.
          Closet racists chest thumping the loudest? Check.
          Not posting a score card because you didn't even attempt to score the fight
          but loudly screaming ROBBERY? Check.

          I find it funny that guys are screaming robbery on here that normally score for AGGRESSION (ineffective or otherwise) or at least claim they do since they never score **** but HERE because of nationalism, racism or just general fighter bias are now yelling Robbery.

          I had it a Draw. Props to both fighters.

          Stop ****ting on either one. There should be a rematch. The 119 scorecards were insane. Both want one, let's do it.

          Stop ****ting on the announce team. They were divided 50 percent which on a close fight like this with hard rounds to score makes sense.

          **** on the culprits: the judges that had that insane score for a close fight (this is not a robbery just ridiculous judging. A robbery is when one person clearly won the fight and doesn't get it).

          I had it a draw personally. I'd be fine if Martinez had won it. He fought a GREAT fight. Both guys showed heart, courage and skill. Let's applaud them.
          No one is calling the decision a robbery, they are calling the scorecard one. Because what that scorecard implies, is that no matter what happened that judge was most likely always going to score it for paul, as if he was paid off or something.

          That is a robbery/fix, and it's ****ed up. martinez was robbed from a real scoring IMO, thats where the robbery comes in it.. it has nothing to do with the outcome. You guys seem to forget how loose the term robbery is.

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          • El_Cholo
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            #55
            I watching it just now, currently on round 7 I have it level.

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            • The Hammer
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              #56
              Lead Cenobite must have lead for brains...he's thick in the head!

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              • Lead Cenobite
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                #57
                Originally posted by Carnivore
                Lead Cenobite must have lead for brains...he's thick in the head!
                Really? Because at the core I agree with you.

                I'm just laughing at how you are SUCH a ***** you can't even give Kellerman credit for last night.

                Want to debate any of the actual points in my post?

                Just keep hating on America you insecure douche. Don't actually try to debate facts.

                Didn't you score the Dirrell Froch fight for Froch based on AGGRESSION. Now you vote this fight Martinez based on clean punching. EXPLAIN.

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                • Lead Cenobite
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by intoccabile
                  No one is calling the decision a robbery, they are calling the scorecard one. Because what that scorecard implies, is that no matter what happened that judge was most likely always going to score it for paul, as if he was paid off or something.

                  That is a robbery/fix, and it's ****ed up. martinez was robbed from a real scoring IMO, thats where the robbery comes in it.. it has nothing to do with the outcome. You guys seem to forget how loose the term robbery is.
                  Untrue but you make a sensible point. I do however think that people are not even conceptually considering what judges might be looking for.

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                  • GG Marquez
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Lead Cenobite
                    I predict very few reasonable responses to this. Or anyone actually thinking about what a "robbery" means. Or realizing when they say "something has to be done about the judges" they don't EVEN KNOW THE SCORING CRITERIA.

                    That said. **** those two judges.
                    I wish you were on the call last night. Reed said exactly what you are saying now, and I appreciate you sticking your neck out to say it.

                    Many people on this board - mainly Pacquiao fans - are not fans of the sport. If you notice, they RARELY post about anything other than Pac. And it is never tactical in nature. Those are the fans who are always quick to say "lolz omg williams got exposed rofl ".

                    That is what really turns me off about this board.

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                    • El_Cholo
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                      #60
                      just watched it, I had it 115-113 for Williams, felt he did the better work in the last couple of round.

                      feck knows what fight that "119-110" judge was watching.

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