Andre Ward relying heavily on BALCO founder.

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  • S.G.
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    #111
    More meticulous testing should be made standard for all professional boxers. The testing system we have now is laughable.

    Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if half of the boxers we know and love are on some kind of illegal performance enhancer.

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      #112
      Originally posted by deanrw
      So let me get this straight. Someone comes in here and shows a relation between a fighter and the infamous Balco, everyone accuses him of grasping at straws or being a poor loser. Manny Paquiao's has no shady people around him, gets accused by an old heroin addict, and then everyone wants to hang him?

      I am not saying Ward is using anything, but even seeing his name in the same sentence as the balco founder gives every reason for concern. People should be asking questions.

      The Double Standards in this place is sickening,
      Very well put as usual my friend.

      Andre Ward should know better than having his name associated with that BALCO scumbag.

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        #113
        Originally posted by S.G.
        More meticulous testing should be made standard for all professional boxers. The testing system we have now is laughable.

        Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if half of the boxers we know and love are on some kind of illegal performance enhancer.
        I would think that the percentage is much higher than 50. More like 80.

        With no out-of-competition testing and no testing of blood it's soooooo easy to cheat.

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        • BirdSong
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          #114
          Originally posted by deanrw
          The Double Standards in this place is sickening,
          Yes, instead of actually focusing on the serious subject, some fire back immediately with kessler jibes etc, pure bias

          At the very least, its suspect and needs to be investigated imo

          But then again trying to get through to people who thought it was ok for wards camp to try to get 3 local californian officials for his fight in cali is not easy

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            #115
            Originally posted by Songbird
            Yes, instead of actually focusing on the serious subject, some fire back immediately with kessler jibes etc, pure bias

            At the very least, its suspect and needs to be investigated imo

            But then again trying to get through to people who thought it was ok for wards camp to try to get 3 local californian officials for his fight in cali is not easy
            If Ward's rise to stardom continues I'd expect the american media to put him under the microscope as was done with Roger Clemens and other icons. So it would be wise for Wards people to act sooner rather than later and end the relationship with Conte.

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            • BirdSong
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              #116
              Yeah thinking about it, olympic style testing is whats needed alrite. Theres always going to be the temptation to cheat but if the chances of getting caught are as high as is possible, that can only be a good thing. I can understand pac not wanting to have blood taken within 3 days of a fight but i cant really understand why athletes would associate with this guy, its just not smart whatever way you look at it. I hope pac agrees fully with the olympic style testing so the floyd fight can be made and i hope ward and chambers stop eating what this exbalco guy is giving them.

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                #117
                Originally posted by deanrw
                So let me get this straight. Someone comes in here and shows a relation between a fighter and the infamous Balco, everyone accuses him of grasping at straws or being a poor loser. Manny Paquiao's has no shady people around him, gets accused by an old heroin addict, and then everyone wants to hang him?

                I am not saying Ward is using anything, but even seeing his name in the same sentence as the balco founder gives every reason for concern. People should be asking questions.

                The Double Standards in this place is sickening,
                And, I think Ward is clean. But, why have any kind of relationship with Victor Conde? And, why does all this boxing fans are acting like this is not a big deal. But, get all hyped over Pac.

                Everybody should just be consistent. But, like you said bro the double standards in this place is sickening.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  If Ward's rise to stardom continues I'd expect the american media to put him under the microscope as was done with Roger Clemens and other icons. So it would be wise for Wards people to act sooner rather than later and end the relationship with Conte.
                  lol i don't know about that. Amercia seems to have quite a thirst for any Ameican boxer who shows a glimmer of talent.

                  Ward is their best hope at 168, i suspect that he could be sexually abusing turtles and mountian goats and the American media wouldn't go out of it's way to draw attention to it. So long as he keeps winning

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Khmelnytsky
                    lol i don't know about that. Amercia seems to have quite a thirst for any Ameican boxer who shows a glimmer of talent.

                    Ward is their best hope at 168, i suspect that he could be sexually abusing turtles and mountian goats and the American media wouldn't go out of it's way to draw attention to it. So long as he keeps winning
                    The americans were willing to destroy Clemens and other baseballstars. USA always acts slow and may take a lot of twists and turns on their way to the right decision.

                    Besides Ward will be under the microscope in Europe as well and the europeans wont let him get away too easy.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      So let me get this straight. Someone comes in here and shows a relation between a fighter and the infamous Balco, everyone accuses him of grasping at straws or being a poor loser. Manny Paquiao's has no shady people around him, gets accused by an old heroin addict, and then everyone wants to hang him?

                      I am not saying Ward is using anything, but even seeing his name in the same sentence as the balco founder gives every reason for concern. People should be asking questions.

                      The Double Standards in this place is sickening,
                      Excellent post.

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