Andre Ward relying heavily on BALCO founder.

[BattlingNelson]

Lets see how Ward likes that. Taylor should demand it.

I think Showtime should demand it for all the fights in the tournament. We need a clean sport.

[Lead Cenobite]

The facts remain that Ward acknowledges the help from the convicted scumbag Conte in his big win.

The body of an all natural athlete. LOL

[BattlingNelson]

The body of an all natural athlete. LOL

You're right. Looks like that guy has taken a lot of needles. Particularly on right side of his body.

[jrosales13]

I am surprise that this story didn't become more of a big deal. You would think all this hardcore boxing fans who "love" boxing and wants to clean up the sport. Would be more upset about hits story.

[BattlingNelson]

I am surprise that this story didn't become more of a big deal. You would think all this hardcore boxing fans who "love" boxing and wants to clean up the sport. Would be more upset about hits story.

I mean no offense, but I was thinking it's because the americans have a more laid back attitude towards doping.

In the NFL first offenders are out a month. That's just laughable compared to european cheaters. They face a 2 year suspension first time and life the second time around.

[jrosales13]

I mean no offense, but I was thinking it's because the americans have a more laid back attitude towards doping.

In the NFL first offenders are out a month. That's just laughable compared to european cheaters. They face a 2 year suspension first time and life the second time around.

I am talking about hardcore boxing fans. I am talking about the ones who are here on this board. The ones who are bashing Pac right now even though Manny is willing to take the blood test. And, pretty much going crazy for something that is just all hype. And, yet not giving a damn about this. Pretty much just taking the whole article and throwing it out cuz "you trying to make an excuse on why Kessler lost" Yet its an L.A based article. You would think everybody who "loves" boxing, who wants to clean-up the sport, everybody who has a problem with Mosley and Pac, would be having a major problem with this?

I mean the article mentions Eddie Chambers somebody who is challenging for the HW championship. And, on Andre Ward a fighter who most likely is the favorite to win the super six tournament. A tournament that is great for boxing. You would think this "hardcore" boxing fans who love the sport and who are upset right now. Would be upset with this. It seems like there is a double standard to me.

[Lead Cenobite]

I mean no offense, but I was thinking it's because the americans have a more laid back attitude towards doping.

In the NFL first offenders are out a month. That's just laughable compared to european cheaters. They face a 2 year suspension first time and life the second time around.

Gosh you Europeans are so superior to us in every way.

[BattlingNelson]

I am talking about hardcore boxing fans. I am talking about the ones who are here on this board. The ones who are bashing Pac right now even though Manny is willing to take the blood test. And, pretty much going crazy for something that is just all hype. And, yet not giving a damn about this. Pretty much just taking the whole article and throwing it out cuz "you trying to make an excuse on why Kessler lost" Yet its an L.A based article. You would think everybody who "loves" boxing, who wants to clean-up the sport, everybody who has a problem with Mosley and Pac, would be having a major problem with this?

I mean the article mentions Eddie Chambers somebody who is challenging for the HW championship. And, on Andre Ward a fighter who most likely is the favorite to win the super six tournament. A tournament that is great for boxing. You would think this "hardcore" boxing fans who love the sport and who are upset right now. Would be upset with this. It seems like there is a double standard to me.

That was very well put.

Oh yeah and me posting made it less of a news to some of the kids in here because Kessler is my man. Those kids didn't see that it wasn't something I made up.

As for the issue with Ward I'm sure he'll be held accountable to the german or danish media if he's to fight Abraham or Kessler again. The media in those countries are hysterical towards roiding because some of the biggest sportsstars has been caught cheating which created an uproar over here.

[deanrw]

So let me get this straight. Someone comes in here and shows a relation between a fighter and the infamous Balco, everyone accuses him of grasping at straws or being a poor loser. Manny Paquiao's has no shady people around him, gets accused by an old heroin addict, and then everyone wants to hang him?

I am not saying Ward is using anything, but even seeing his name in the same sentence as the balco founder gives every reason for concern. People should be asking questions.

The Double Standards in this place is sickening,

[BirdSong]

I agree even if these guys are not cheating they should NOT be associating with this guy. Ward and chambers and who knows else are swallowing what this guy is producing and going by the past, its not good. To be honest when i found out about this i was very suprised it was happening all over again (potentially), at the very least do these athletes want a question mark over their heads? Are they that desperate or do they have no faith in their abilities? hhhhhmmm