Why isn't Wlad P4P?

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  • sylvestersweet
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    #31
    Both Klits are in my top ten.

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    • Easy-E
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      #32
      Originally posted by kswizzy99
      It doesn't make sense that Wlad isn't in the p4p top 10. He has certainley beaten better comp in his own division than someone like Chad who is at #9.

      Personally I don't like Wlad, but he has still beaten a lot of the top guys in the HW division and has accomplished more than some of the guys in the top 10 p4p.
      Because pound for pound is the best fighter in the world regardless of size. Without his size Wlad's skills mean consideribly less. He has beaten some highly ranked heavy's in a weak division but I dont think he is one of the best 10 fighters in the world.

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      • Bushbaby
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        #33
        Isn't Vitali in there,he definately deserves it!!I think he is better than Wlad,if Vitali is in there,I got no problem with Wlad not being top 10,but Vitali gotta be in there though!!

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        • zoneman99
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          #34
          I agree. He deserves to be in the top 10 P4P list. He's beaten fighters like Chagaev, Ibragimov, Peter, Byrd and Brewster in the past few years. That's a good quantity of great fighters.

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          • Heru
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            #35
            Originally posted by kswizzy99
            Chagaev, Peter, Ibragimov, Byrd. It doesn't matter your opinion on those fighters, what matters is their rankings. And that resume is better than Caballero, Williams and Chad. Wlad should be on the p4p list plain and simple.

            hw's not belonging on the list is a myth.
            Chagaev, Peter, Ibragimov, and Byrd, is not a better lineup than Adamek, Tarver (2x), and Johnson (2x). If you want to claim rankings, they had better rankings than them too.

            I'm arguing Chad Dawson's position to be top 10 not Caballero's or Williams, although Williams has a good case.

            Except for Peter, he outweighed all 3 fighters by 20-30 pounds. I'm not arguing whether heavyweights should or shouldn't be on P4P lists, but that's not P4P.

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              #36
              Originally posted by zoneman99
              i agree. He deserves to be in the top 10 p4p list. He's beaten fighters like chagaev, ibragimov, peter, byrd and brewster in the past few years. That's a good quantity of great fighters.
              ....wtf?????

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              • Royabeda
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                #37
                Originally posted by Mersey
                P4P is to say, if two fighters are the same size, who would win?
                It's based off rankings though and the level of competition fighters have beaten in their own weight division. Besides, if say Pacqiuao and Mayweather were the same size as Wlad then would they be able to fight the same as they do now? No and vice versa so it's pretty pointless to even contemplate 'if two fighters were the same size'. Plus, it's kind of harsh to dismiss Wlad because he uses his 'height and reach' to his advantage, do fighters in other weight classes not do the same if they can? Maybe not to the same extent but using your physical advantages as best you can is just smart boxing. Lewis did the same and you know if he was fighting today he'd be top 10 p4p but you don't think that would be right? I get what people mean with the weight issue but it's not like Wlad hasn't fought fighters who weighed an equal amount or more than him. Personally I think he should be top 10

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                • Mersey
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Royabeda
                  It's based off rankings though and the level of competition fighters have beaten in their own weight division. Besides, if say Pacqiuao and Mayweather were the same size as Wlad then would they be able to fight the same as they do now? No and vice versa so it's pretty pointless to even contemplate 'if two fighters were the same size'. Plus, it's kind of harsh to dismiss Wlad because he uses his 'height and reach' to his advantage, do fighters in other weight classes not do the same if they can? Maybe not to the same extent but using your physical advantages as best you can is just smart boxing. Lewis did the same and you know if he was fighting today he'd be top 10 p4p but you don't think that would be right? I get what people mean with the weight issue but it's not like Wlad hasn't fought fighters who weighed an equal amount or more than him. Personally I think he should be top 10
                  Pound for pound is the term used in boxing, mixed martial arts, and other combat sports to describe a fighter's value in relation to fighters of different weight classes. In boxing, Ring Magazine's pound for pound list is the established standard for ranking fighters pound for pound. Because of the emphasis on the size of the boxer, pound for pound ratings predominantly feature fewer heavyweights, focusing primarily on boxers middleweight or below.

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                  • The_Demon
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                    #39
                    because his resume is extremely weak

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                      #40
                      Wlad has fought nobody. While it's not his fault that the comp is horrible, you can't turn around and reward him for it.

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