Tyson the heir apparent - the heavyweight division's only UNDEFEATED contender

[Kid Achilles]

The Douglas fight was no fluke. I just watched it the other day and Tyson came out in the first round looking exactly like he did in the Tony Tubbs fight I have. He started off looked great...until he realized Douglas would not be backing down. Then it was the same old story of self doubt that has plagued Tyson since the amateurs. The guy has deeply rooted confidence problems and it shows.


The Douglas that fought Mike that night would have given him problems at any point in his career and would have had a strong chance of upsetting even the Tyson who took out Spinks. I'm sick of people not giving James credit for what he did that night. It was no accident. That fight was one of the greatest David and Goliath (though David is physically the bigger man in this case) stories in boxing history. It laid down the blueprint of how to beat Tyson that has been successfully followed several times since.

[Tha Greatest]

The Douglas fight was no fluke. I just watched it the other day and Tyson came out in the first round looking exactly like he did in the Tony Tubbs fight I have. He started off looked great...until he realized Douglas would not be backing down. Then it was the same old story of self doubt that has plagued Tyson since the amateurs. The guy has deeply rooted confidence problems and it shows.


The Douglas that fought Mike that night would have given him problems at any point in his career and would have had a strong chance of upsetting even the Tyson who took out Spinks. I'm sick of people not giving James credit for what he did that night. It was no accident. That fight was one of the greatest David and Goliath (though David is physically the bigger man in this case) stories in boxing history. It laid down the blueprint of how to beat Tyson that has been successfully followed several times since.

I never said it was a fluke..
I said where Mike Tyson knocked down Douglas was a fluke...
Douglas whooped his ass..

[Tha Greatest]

Please tell me when Douglas has found out force of klitschko`s punch?

I said Douglas? I meant Williams lol

[FrankJack]

I'm sorry, but to say Tyson is undefeated is just ******. The only excuse in any of those fights that Tyson has is against Williams, cus obviously you need your knees to fight. In every other fight, the reason that Tyson lost, was cus Tyson didn't do what he had to to win.

[riz]

Tyson would DESTROY Vitali. Look at the facts: Tyson chose to lose to Williams in 4. Williams got beat by Vitali in 8. So Tyson would beat Vitali.

It's a FACT.

man ur dummer than i htought, n i didn't even kno that was possible
tyson didn't chose to lose to williams. HE LOST! vitali destroyed him. who cares how many rounds it took, tyson lost, vitali won.
same with the lewis fight. tyson got destroyed in 8, vitali was leading on all cards when the fight was stopped. n sum still believe that vitali would've won if the fight had went on. tyson is DONE. n his losses, sum gyz talkin bout the douglas fight. douglas was schooling tyson for much of the fight.( xcept the 9th round). tyson didn't chose to lose, HE LOST. n as far as the fact bull****, you dont know its a fact cuz it didn't happen yet.

[riz]

I'm sorry, but to say Tyson is undefeated is just ******. The only excuse in any of those fights that Tyson has is against Williams, cus obviously you need your knees to fight. In every other fight, the reason that Tyson lost, was cus Tyson didn't do what he had to to win.

at least if he lost by close decisions, there would be an argument. like if sum1 says morales should be undefeated i could partially agree. but its like saying RJJ should be undefeated. his DQ loss against griffin (i agree with that one), n his KO losses, were fluke.
u want a fact, heres a fact
FLUKE OR NO FLUKE, WHEN U GET LAID OUT ON YOUR ASS, THERES NO CONTROVERSY, YOU LOST!!! he didn't get up by the count of 10 in 3 of his losses, whose fault is that, the fans?

[Guest]

Point One: Time the space between Danny Williams's head clearing and Tyson's knee getting a twinge/seriously being pulled (delete as applicable). People always talk about it, but Danny had already recovered and resumed trading long before it happened.

Point Two: Okay, I've brought it on myself, but this whole thread was a JOKE!!! It was a PARODY of the typical Tyson fan who believes these sorts of things. I don't know what's worse - the Tyson fans who believe he didn't lose to Williams and Lewis, or the dumb asses who reply to this thread with false superiority going "yo man, Tyson did lose you mofo." It was a JOKE.


Please... kill this thread off, I'm bored now.

[Derranged_]

Point Two: Okay, I've brought it on myself, but this whole thread was a JOKE!!! It was a PARODY of the typical Tyson fan who believes these sorts of things. I don't know what's worse - the Tyson fans who believe he didn't lose to Williams and Lewis, or the dumb asses who reply to this thread with false superiority going "yo man, Tyson did lose you mofo." It was a JOKE.


Please... kill this thread off, I'm bored now.[/QUOTE]

Why are you wasting our time with these joke threads? BoxingScene is a serious website devoted to the intellectual discourse of boxing. Smarten up, mate!

[Truth]

Anorak, I agree with that list to be honest with you.
Tyson, in my opinion, only has 1 loss what came fair and square and that was his loss to Lennox Lewis, but even him being past his prime and Lewis being at his best in his prime can be brought up as an argument. Everything thing else you said was true. You were probably being sarcastic, but I'm dead serious..

Thats actually kind of true ...but their excuses so most people won't listen.

[snap the jab]

I've watched the Lewis/Tyson and Holyfield/Tyson(1) fights a couple of times, and Tyson definitely lost those fights fair and square. Tyson could have taken Holyfield down for sure, if he'd gone to the body and hadn't sulked as soon as H frustrated him for a couple rounds, but he didn't and he got TKOed. And Lennox Lewis just plain took him apart.

Tyson is one of the greatest fighters ever to walk into the ring, and at 38 he's still one of the ten best heavyweights IMO, but give it up, he's been defeated.