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  • #31
    Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
    A lot of those guys ducked Jones and were even quoted as such. Jones fought Toney FFS, so why would he duck any of the other guys if he fought the best out of the bunch? use logic for a second plz. Benn was quoted as saying he didn't want to fight Jones in his prime and Calzaghe the same.
    Benn wanted the fight, Jones was his smw mandatory before moving down to mw to fight Hopkins for the mw belt. They tried to make a fight after Benn beat McClellan but Don KIng was trying to get options on Jones next couple of fights so it fell through.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
      A lot of those guys ducked Jones and were even quoted as such. Jones fought Toney FFS, so why would he duck any of the other guys if he fought the best out of the bunch? use logic for a second plz. Benn was quoted as saying he didn't want to fight Jones in his prime and Calzaghe the same.
      Yep Toney. That was a great win. In the next 4 years he didn't do much if anything notheworthy.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
        Two things that can be argued about the list is that its the annual ratings, things happen in between the year guys move in and out. Second, we dont know what type offers were made with those fighters, Roy could have wanted percentages they were not willing to give up and Roy wasnt about to fight overseas at that time either.
        But we do know that Jones didn't fight them and that should be taken into account when one adds up his legacy. The guys he didn't fight.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
          I did a little research on Roy Jones Jr. and the opposition he fought as a SMW.

          Jones was in essense fighting in the 168 lb division from 1993 until 1996.

          Keys:

          RED = Eventually fought them or fought them already
          BLUE = Fought them in that year.

          The year end rankings of 1992 looked like this:

          1: Michael Nunn
          2: Iran Barkley
          3: Chris Eubank
          4: Victor Cordoba
          5: Nigel Benn
          6: Tim Littles
          7: Darrin Van Horn
          8: Tony Thornton
          9: Frankie Liles
          10: Frank Nicotra

          He fought Thornton in 1995.

          1993:

          1: James Toney
          2: Michael Nunn
          3: Chris Eubank
          4: Nigel Benn
          5: Tim Littles
          6: Darrin Van Horn
          7: Frankie Liles
          8: Tony Thornton
          9: Antoine Byrd
          10: Vincenzo Nardiello


          1994: Jones enters the list at no. 1 after beating Toney.

          1: Roy Jones Jr.
          2: Nigel Benn
          3: Chris Eubank
          4: Frankie Liles
          5: Vinny Pazienza
          6: Tim Littles
          7: Michael Nunn
          8: Ray Close
          9: Graciano Rocchigiani
          10: Antoine Byrd


          1995:

          1: Roy Jones Jr.
          2: Nigel Benn
          3: Steve Collins
          4: Frankie Liles
          5: Tim Littles
          6: Vinny Pazienza
          7: Bryant Brannon
          8: Henry Wharton
          9: Michael Nunn
          10: Ray Close


          1996:

          1: Roy Jones Jr.
          2: Frankie Liles
          3: Steve Collins
          4: Vinny Pazienza
          5: Robin Reid
          6: Henry Wharton
          7: Michael Nunn
          8: Vincenzo Nardiello
          9: Joseph Kiwanuka
          10: Thulani Malinga

          At the end of 1996 Jones had moved up.

          So Jones work after 4 years at 168 lb consist of an excellent win over Toney and not much else:

          Toney
          Thornton
          Pazienza (LOL)
          Byrd
          Brannon

          Jones never fought a top 3 opponent after Toney. He had 6 fights at 168 after beating him. Of those fights he beat an unranked Thornton, a suspected juiced lightweight in Pazienza, a past it Byrd, a never was in Sosa, a young non-threat in Lucas and a veteran of 16 fights in Brannon.


          So the deserving fighters Jones didn't fight (or ducked as it's called on NSB) is these guys:

          Nunn
          Benn
          Eubank
          Collins
          Barkley
          Cordoba
          Littles
          Van Horn
          Liles
          Nardiello
          Close
          Rocchigianni
          Nicotra



          Let's face it. A Nunn or a Benn or a Eubank or a Liles or even a Collins would have been real nice.

          (I hope I didn't miss anyone )

          Jones beat the best guy at 168 and that's all that really matters. And it's funny how you label Lucas as a "non threat" for his one fight with Jones. Did Lucas suddenly get good in all of his other fights? That's usually what people do when they want to distort and twist an argument in their favor. Your thread is nothing more than a cheap shot towards a great fighter well past his prime.
          Last edited by Calilloyd; 12-02-2009, 04:11 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            No. Jones was practically a SMW since late 1992.

            All I'm saying is that he didn't fight them and several of those fights was there to be made.
            eubank, calzaghe, stated to the world their unintrest in fighting roy jones

            it was also announced how the competition ran out on jones, not the other way around

            you could very well just start a thread about each of these guys and show how they ducked jones

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              • #37
                dont dimish this great mans career.. roy was unbeatable in his prime.. preheavyweight. he destroyedd toney with ease..

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post

                  Jones beat the best guy at 168 and that's all that really matters. And it's funny how you label Lucas as a "non threat" for his one fight with Jones. Did Lucas suddenly get good in all of his other fights? That's usually what people do when they want to distort and twist an argument in their favor. Your thread is nothing more than a cheap shot towards a great fighter well past his prime.
                  Lucas was in a rough stretch at the time. Surely a Nunn or a Eubank would have been more challenging?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BBoy MeYHeM View Post
                    dont dimish this great mans career.. roy was unbeatable in his prime.. preheavyweight. he destroyedd toney with ease..
                    At least the guys he fought couldn't beat him. Don't you think Michael Nunn would have a great shot at beating Roy Jones?

                    I do.

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                    • #40
                      he may have had it rough agaist benn.

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