Roy Jones Jr. The ducks he made at supermiddleweight.

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  • Sir Tom Jones
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    #21
    Originally posted by street bully
    Lets not kick dirt in his face now that he is down. Why couldn't Calzaghe beat Jones like Green did?
    doesn't have cruiserweight power.

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    • TheGreatA
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      #22
      Originally posted by GoogleMe
      Eubank, Nigel Benn, Nunn, Barkley and Collins were great fighter? Especially Benn and Eubank were beasts? Think they were the best SMW's ever.
      Outside of them there was really nothing though. The challengers they defended their titles against were dreadful.

      Jones's first fight at SMW was actually against Thulani Malinga, a very credible opponent who had close fights with Benn and Eubank.

      He had also won a minor SMW title previously but Malinga was his first legit opponent at the weight.

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      • Vasyl’s dad
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        #23
        [whiny little] but the dates don't match up for them to have fought[***** voice brizpac]

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        • Mr. Philadel
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          #24
          Originally posted by street bully
          Lets not kick dirt in his face now that he is down. Why couldn't Calzaghe beat Jones like Green did?
          .....see thats why you my dude!!!

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #25
            Originally posted by tehMatrix
            right, so jones first fight at supermiddleweight was against james toney(at the end of 1994)
            you could make the same argument as to why jones did'nt fight eubank and benn as to why james toney did'nt fight the two

            now 1995(as the last year joens was at supermiddle)
            ''Two 168 belt-holders, Steve Collins and Frankie Liles, have rejected big money offers to fight Roy Jones- Larry Merchant announces'' -- And that's why roy jones then moved up in weight

            also eubank openely said he was afraid of roy jones and did'nt want to fight him
            No. Jones was practically a SMW since late 1992.

            All I'm saying is that he didn't fight them and several of those fights was there to be made.

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            • rskumm21
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              #26
              Originally posted by Precision
              Is this thread really necessary Nelson ?

              Talk about kicking a guy when he is down.
              It's not about kicking a guy while he's down, It's to prove that Jones did have the opportunity to fight better comp and chose not to, and to prove once again that the myth of Jones being a top 10 ATG is just that; a myth. Jones was a talented guy, but he chose to play it safe for the most part, that is the point behind this.

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              • Adamantium
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                #27
                I asked former HBO Sports president Seth Abraham for his thoughts on this enigma wrapped in a riddle.

                “His drive was to do things that were of interest to him, but not necessarily to fight the very best middleweights, super middleweights and light heavyweights who were out there,” Abraham responded. “I think Roy’s legacy in the sport absolutely will suffer because he chose not to do everything he could to make himself as great as he might have been.”

                http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...-jones-legacy/

                Maybe thats why.

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                • -Swizzy-
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  So the deserving fighters Jones didn't fight (or ducked as it's called on NSB) is these guys:

                  Nunn
                  Benn
                  Eubank
                  Collins
                  Barkley
                  Cordoba
                  Littles
                  Van Horn
                  Liles
                  Nardiello
                  Close
                  Rocchigianni
                  Nicotra



                  Let's face it. A Nunn or a Benn or a Eubank or a Liles or even a Collins would have been real nice.

                  (I hope I didn't miss anyone )
                  A lot of those guys ducked Jones and were even quoted as such. Jones fought Toney FFS, so why would he duck any of the other guys if he fought the best out of the bunch? use logic for a second plz. Benn was quoted as saying he didn't want to fight Jones in his prime and Calzaghe the same.

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                  • Bhopreign
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                    #29
                    Two things that can be argued about the list is that its the annual ratings, things happen in between the year guys move in and out. Second, we dont know what type offers were made with those fighters, Roy could have wanted percentages they were not willing to give up and Roy wasnt about to fight overseas at that time either.

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                    • !! Anorak
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kswizzy99
                      A lot of those guys ducked Jones and were even quoted as such. Jones fought Toney FFS, so why would he duck any of the other guys if he fought the best out of the bunch? use logic for a second plz. Benn was quoted as saying he didn't want to fight Jones in his prime and Calzaghe the same.
                      Do you not think that - regardless of position, who was the "best", etc - that James Toney is stylistically one of the easiest match-ups for Roy out of the names mentioned?

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