"Two of the sport's "good guys" are cheaters!"

[spiriculdigul]

At the risk of sounding ignorant.. who is Michael Palitoni?

Sounds Italian. Could be one of them malignaggi supporters.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Oh, I'm aware sir. I'm just saying that Toney was already well established at that point and had been a top P4P fighter and would not be considered Roach's "pupil".

Agreed but at one time for a period of time Freddie made him better. He had a flat period late 90's up until 2002 when he was bating stiffs and Freddie took him on and got him in the lime light again for a short while...Lefty

[Mr. Ryan]

This might be the most irresponsible, indefensible editorial I've ever read. He claims to have inside sources but lists none of them. It's sad that some people group all internet writers together and condemn them all because of writers like this guy.

[VatoMulatto]

It's very easy to cheat in boxing so of course Pac could be using some illegal stuff BUT unless you have some real good sources that you can back up and expose the dude you shouldn't really put out an article like that.

Funny thing is when I google "Maxcell" I can't find anything about steroids.

[mellow_mood]

It's very easy to cheat in boxing so of course Pac could be using some illegal stuff BUT unless you have some real good sources that you can back up and expose the dude you shouldn't really put out an article like that.

Funny thing is when I google "Maxcell" I can't find anything about steroids.

some maxcell info that i found.....

ANALYSIS OF PROPOSED CONSENT ORDER
TO AID PUBLIC COMMENT

The Federal Trade Commission has accepted, subject to final approval, an agreement containing a consent order from MaxCell BioScience, Inc. and Stephen Cherniske, president of the corporation (collectively, "MaxCell").

The proposed consent order has been placed on the public record for thirty (30) days for receipt of comments by interested persons. Comments received during this period will become part of the public record. After thirty (30) days, the Commission will again review the agreement and the comments received, and will decide whether it should withdraw from the agreement or make final the agreement's proposed order.

This matter involves alleged misleading representations about Longevity Signal Formula ("LSF"), a dietary supplement containing, among other ingredients, arginine, DHEA, and 7-Keto DHEA, and an Anabolic/Catabolic Index™ ("ACI") test, an at-home (with laboratory analysis) urine test that measures the ratio of 17-ketosteroids to creatinine in one urine sample. This matter concerns allegedly false and unsubstantiated advertising claims made in cassette tapes and web sites distributed directly to consumers and through distributors regarding the ability of LSF to reverse the aging process and, consequently, to prevent, treat, or cure numerous age-related diseases and conditions, and the ability of the ACI test to measure a person's overall healthiness and youthfulness and to prove the effectiveness of LSF for reversing aging.

According to the FTC complaint, MaxCell falsely claimed that the ACI test provides a clinical gauge of an individual's overall healthiness or youthfulness and demonstrates that LSF prevents or reverses aging. In fact, the complaint alleges that the ACI test only measures inactive androgen breakdown products in the urine, which products, in most instances, are not a significant or reliable measure of overall healthiness or youthfulness. The complaint further alleges that MaxCell falsely claimed that scientific testing demonstrates the ability of LSF to: significantly reduce the risk of atherosclerosis; increase bone density, improve glucose tolerance, reduce body fat, increase muscle mass, and increase growth hormone levels in post-menopausal women; improve liver function; and significantly increase life expectancy.

In addition, the complaint challenges claims that LSF: significantly reduces the risk of atherosclerosis; cures arthritis; lowers blood pressure; significantly lowers cholesterol levels in the bloodstream; strengthens bones; reduces or eliminates the need for corrective eyewear; promotes significant weight loss and muscle gain without dieting or exercise; increases glucose tolerance; increases Growth Hormone levels in the body, thereby causing positive clinical effects on health; improves liver function; prevents or reverses aging; and significantly increases life expectancy. The complaint alleges that these claims are unsubstantiated.

Finally, the complaint charges that MaxCell, by providing advertisements and promotional materials to distributors for use in their marketing and sale of LSF and the ACI test, have provided means and instrumentalities to distributors of MaxCell's products in furtherance of the deceptive and misleading acts or practices alleged in the complaint.

The proposed consent order contains provisions designed to prevent MaxCell and its distributors from engaging in similar acts and practices in the future and to redress consumer injury by requiring MaxCell to make a monetary payment to the Commission.

Part I of the order bans claims that the ACI Test or any other substantially similar device provides a clinical gauge of an individual's overall healthiness or youthfulness. "Substantially similar device" is defined as any product that measures the ratio of 17-ketosteroids to creatinine in one urine sample.

Part II of the order requires that future claims that any test or device provides a clinical gauge of an individual's overall healthiness or youthfulness be true and substantiated by competent and reliable scientific evidence.

Part III of the order requires competent and reliable scientific evidence as substantiation for future claims that LSF or any other food, drug, device, service, or dietary supplement provides any of the specific health benefits challenged above as unsubstantiated. In addition, Part III. L requires scientific substantiation for any future claim about the effect of covered products or services on any disease, on the structure or function of the human body, or about any other health benefit, or the safety, of any covered product or service.

Part IV of the order prohibits MaxCell from providing to any person or entity "means and instrumentalities" that contain any claim about the effect of any product or service on any disease, or about the effect of any product or service on the structure or function of the human body, or about any other health benefit, or the safety, of any product or service, unless such claim is true and substantiated by competent and reliable scientific evidence. "Means and instrumentalities" is defined as any information, including but not necessarily limited to any advertising, labeling, or promotional materials, for use by distributors in their marketing or sale of the ACI test or LSF or any other product or service covered under the order.

Part V of the order prohibits MaxCell from misrepresenting the existence, contents, validity, results, conclusions, or interpretations of any test, study, or research.

Part VI of the order requires dissemination of a notice ("Attachment A") about the order to MaxCell's distributors who have purchased the ACI Test or LSF since January 1, 2000. This notice indicates that MaxCell has agreed to cease making challenged representations, and warns distributors that they may be terminated if they do not conform their representations to the requirements placed on MaxCell.

Part VII of the order requires dissemination of Attachment A to future distributors, and that MaxCell monitor their distributors, and terminate sales to distributors who make representations prohibited by the order.

Part VIII of the order permits FDA-approved drug claims and claims for food or dietary supplements authorized under the Nutrition Labeling and Education Act of 1990.

Part IX of the order requires that MaxCell make a payment of $150,000 to the Commission, which funds the FTC can forward to the U.S. Treasury as disgorgement or use for purposes of consumer redress.

Parts X, XI, XII, and XIV of the order require MaxCell to keep copies of relevant advertisements and materials substantiating claims made in the advertisements, to provide copies of the order to certain of its personnel, to notify the Commission of changes in corporate structure, and to file compliance reports with the Commission. Part XIII requires Stephen Cherniske to notify the Commission of his employment status, and Part XV provides that the order will terminate after twenty (20) years under certain circumstances.

The purpose of this analysis is to facilitate public comment on the proposed order, and it is not intended to constitute an official interpretation of the agreement and proposed order or to modify in any way their terms.

[VatoMulatto]

@mellow_mood

Thanks!...Interesting info.

[mellow_mood]

@mellow_mood

Thanks!...Interesting info.

anytime broo

[Pullcounter]

some maxcell info that i found.....

ANALYSIS OF PROPOSED CONSENT ORDER
TO AID PUBLIC COMMENT

The Federal Trade Commission has accepted, subject to final approval, an agreement containing a consent order from MaxCell BioScience, Inc. and Stephen Cherniske, president of the corporation (collectively, "MaxCell").

The proposed consent order has been placed on the public record for thirty (30) days for receipt of comments by interested persons. Comments received during this period will become part of the public record. After thirty (30) days, the Commission will again review the agreement and the comments received, and will decide whether it should withdraw from the agreement or make final the agreement's proposed order.

This matter involves alleged misleading representations about Longevity Signal Formula ("LSF"), a dietary supplement containing, among other ingredients, arginine, DHEA, and 7-Keto DHEA, and an Anabolic/Catabolic Index™ ("ACI") test, an at-home (with laboratory analysis) urine test that measures the ratio of 17-ketosteroids to creatinine in one urine sample. This matter concerns allegedly false and unsubstantiated advertising claims made in cassette tapes and web sites distributed directly to consumers and through distributors regarding the ability of LSF to reverse the aging process and, consequently, to prevent, treat, or cure numerous age-related diseases and conditions, and the ability of the ACI test to measure a person's overall healthiness and youthfulness and to prove the effectiveness of LSF for reversing aging.

According to the FTC complaint, MaxCell falsely claimed that the ACI test provides a clinical gauge of an individual's overall healthiness or youthfulness and demonstrates that LSF prevents or reverses aging. In fact, the complaint alleges that the ACI test only measures inactive androgen breakdown products in the urine, which products, in most instances, are not a significant or reliable measure of overall healthiness or youthfulness. The complaint further alleges that MaxCell falsely claimed that scientific testing demonstrates the ability of LSF to: significantly reduce the risk of atherosclerosis; increase bone density, improve glucose tolerance, reduce body fat, increase muscle mass, and increase growth hormone levels in post-menopausal women; improve liver function; and significantly increase life expectancy.

In addition, the complaint challenges claims that LSF: significantly reduces the risk of atherosclerosis; cures arthritis; lowers blood pressure; significantly lowers cholesterol levels in the bloodstream; strengthens bones; reduces or eliminates the need for corrective eyewear; promotes significant weight loss and muscle gain without dieting or exercise; increases glucose tolerance; increases Growth Hormone levels in the body, thereby causing positive clinical effects on health; improves liver function; prevents or reverses aging; and significantly increases life expectancy. The complaint alleges that these claims are unsubstantiated.

Finally, the complaint charges that MaxCell, by providing advertisements and promotional materials to distributors for use in their marketing and sale of LSF and the ACI test, have provided means and instrumentalities to distributors of MaxCell's products in furtherance of the deceptive and misleading acts or practices alleged in the complaint.

The proposed consent order contains provisions designed to prevent MaxCell and its distributors from engaging in similar acts and practices in the future and to redress consumer injury by requiring MaxCell to make a monetary payment to the Commission.

Part I of the order bans claims that the ACI Test or any other substantially similar device provides a clinical gauge of an individual's overall healthiness or youthfulness. "Substantially similar device" is defined as any product that measures the ratio of 17-ketosteroids to creatinine in one urine sample.

Part II of the order requires that future claims that any test or device provides a clinical gauge of an individual's overall healthiness or youthfulness be true and substantiated by competent and reliable scientific evidence.

Part III of the order requires competent and reliable scientific evidence as substantiation for future claims that LSF or any other food, drug, device, service, or dietary supplement provides any of the specific health benefits challenged above as unsubstantiated. In addition, Part III. L requires scientific substantiation for any future claim about the effect of covered products or services on any disease, on the structure or function of the human body, or about any other health benefit, or the safety, of any covered product or service.

Part IV of the order prohibits MaxCell from providing to any person or entity "means and instrumentalities" that contain any claim about the effect of any product or service on any disease, or about the effect of any product or service on the structure or function of the human body, or about any other health benefit, or the safety, of any product or service, unless such claim is true and substantiated by competent and reliable scientific evidence. "Means and instrumentalities" is defined as any information, including but not necessarily limited to any advertising, labeling, or promotional materials, for use by distributors in their marketing or sale of the ACI test or LSF or any other product or service covered under the order.

Part V of the order prohibits MaxCell from misrepresenting the existence, contents, validity, results, conclusions, or interpretations of any test, study, or research.

Part VI of the order requires dissemination of a notice ("Attachment A") about the order to MaxCell's distributors who have purchased the ACI Test or LSF since January 1, 2000. This notice indicates that MaxCell has agreed to cease making challenged representations, and warns distributors that they may be terminated if they do not conform their representations to the requirements placed on MaxCell.

Part VII of the order requires dissemination of Attachment A to future distributors, and that MaxCell monitor their distributors, and terminate sales to distributors who make representations prohibited by the order.

Part VIII of the order permits FDA-approved drug claims and claims for food or dietary supplements authorized under the Nutrition Labeling and Education Act of 1990.

Part IX of the order requires that MaxCell make a payment of $150,000 to the Commission, which funds the FTC can forward to the U.S. Treasury as disgorgement or use for purposes of consumer redress.

Parts X, XI, XII, and XIV of the order require MaxCell to keep copies of relevant advertisements and materials substantiating claims made in the advertisements, to provide copies of the order to certain of its personnel, to notify the Commission of changes in corporate structure, and to file compliance reports with the Commission. Part XIII requires Stephen Cherniske to notify the Commission of his employment status, and Part XV provides that the order will terminate after twenty (20) years under certain circumstances.

The purpose of this analysis is to facilitate public comment on the proposed order, and it is not intended to constitute an official interpretation of the agreement and proposed order or to modify in any way their terms.

so maxcell is an anti-aging supplement and not a "steroid"?

[GG Marquez]

There's a lot of bull**** in that article.

Again, nothing but heresay. And since when was Toney Roach's "pupil"? That aint true by any means.

Toney wasn't Roach's pupil? What was he?

[mellow_mood]

so maxcell is an anti-aging supplement and not a "steroid"?

^^ dont know man...... I didn't create it

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/06/maxcellanalysis.htm

thats the link for the article.. im not saying nothing i just google some info on maxcell...