"Two of the sport's "good guys" are cheaters!"

**savorduhflavor** · 12-01-2009, 09:07 AM

There's a lot of bull**** in that article.

Again, nothing but heresay. And since when was Toney Roach's "pupil"? That aint true by any means.

**illpapi** · 12-01-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by savorduhflavor

There's a lot of bull**** in that article.

Again, nothing but heresay. And since when was Toney Roach's "pupil"? That aint true by any means.

Well, like I said I am only the messenger. It's just funny though that sometimes we see certain people/boxers as such good guy that would never think that they could be cable of doing anything out of line. Like Mosley for example, I am sure that before the evidence was out a lot of people would have fought til end to defend him. I mean look at him...a good guy...who would have ever thought that he would?

**al22tec** · 12-01-2009, 09:15 AM

savorduflavor's avatar is more interesting than that article.

**duasto** · 12-01-2009, 09:15 AM

Don't you see that all steroids threads for PAC are gone now? PAC already tested negative right before the fight in Nevada. Here is the video
hxxp://www.gmanews.tv/video/51250/pacquiao-tested-negative-for-illegal-drugs

just replace the 'xx' with 'tt'

**LEFTYGUNZZ** · 12-01-2009, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by savorduhflavor

There's a lot of bull**** in that article.

Again, nothing but heresay. And since when was Toney Roach's "pupil"? That aint true by any means.

James Toney was coached by Freddie Roach for a long time sir. Incase you did realize it Freddie coached him from the early 2000's until recently....Lefty

**Puntoyhauf** · 12-01-2009, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by SnoopySmurf

So he has proof or just more conjecture and hearsay?

He said he has a reliable source... so that there will be an escape goat if Team Pacquiao decides to sue him.

**Ryn0** · 12-01-2009, 09:28 AM

So he accused Mosley and Pac of using Maxcell?

Mosley for sure would get extensive drug testing because of his history so I very much doubt he is using any kind of performance enhancers.

There is not a shred of evidence against Pac so that BS until evidence comes out

**illpapi** · 12-01-2009, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by SnoopySmurf

So he has proof or just more conjecture and hearsay?

I suppose it should always be about having proof and I will respect that. I too (believe it or not) have been or was a BIG Pac fan from the time he started to rise. I always admired his way of fighting.
But like you I am not not a blind nutthugger!
Sometimes it does make me think how certain things appear to be against the rules of science in a way. It seems that if you move up in weight you would loose atleast some speed but in PAC's case it's all the opposite...for him putting on more pounds= more speed and more power! That's pretty amzing to say the least.
I will continue to give him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

**mellow_mood** · 12-01-2009, 09:30 AM

ohh ****!!!!!!!!!

"Two of the sport's "good guys" are cheaters!"