"Two of the sport's "good guys" are cheaters!"

[BattlingNelson]

This is pathetic. Just postulates. No source. Bull****.

[IMDAZED]

The article lost credibility with the title: "Leak in the camps: Two of boxing's top echelon fighters, two of the sport's "good guys" are cheaters!"

As cited by the guy himself, it was Balco who points to Mosley's using drugs not his camp.

I think his point was that no one tested positive - it took leaks for it to come out.

[rao007]

I think his point was that no one tested positive - it took leaks for it to come out.

Yes, I understand that but don't you notice these athletes needed a labaratory to get the drugs. We need to find if Packy is connected in anyway with a pharmaceutical company. I can totally understand cycling the drug but we have yet to find evidence that Packy uses an active, untraceable drug when he's actually in the ring.

[IMDAZED]

Yes, I understand that but don't you notice these athletes needed a labaratory to get the drugs. We need to find if Packy is connected in anyway with a pharmaceutical company. I can totally understand cycling the drug but we have yet to find evidence that Packy uses an active, untraceable drug when he's actually in the ring.

There won't be any evidence unless someone leaks it. That's if he's using. NEWSFLASH: Most top athletes are on performance enhancers. Is that an unsubstantiated statement? Yes.

[rao007]

There won't be any evidence unless someone leaks it. That's if he's using. NEWSFLASH: Most top athletes are on performance enhancers. Is that an unsubstantiated statement? Yes.

If you consider "supplements" or "vitamins" PEDs. Regardless of whether or not they're on PEDs unless we find out athletes are using steroids, etc., they're clean. That's why people are shocked to find famous athletes using roids--because most assume they're playing fair.

[IMDAZED]

If you consider "supplements" or "vitamins" PEDs. Regardless of whether or not they're on PEDs unless we find out athletes are using steroids, etc., they're clean. That's why people are shocked to find famous athletes using roids--because most assume they're playing fair.

Yes...they assume wrongly. If they haven't realized it by now, then they'll continue to be surprised. Although that's pretty naive in a sport like boxing where the testing is pathetic and any notable boxing gym is a breeding ground for users.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

The thing about Pacquiao is he "grew up" as a boxer. He was at 106 pounds when he was 16 yrs old. By the time he was was at 140, his muscles pretty much grew into his frame. He's not as fast as he was at 126, but by comparison to others at 140 and 147, he's among the quickest.

If Pacquiao started boxing at 18, I bet you he would have started at 122. At 5'6", he has the body frame to fight up to 147.

This fact remains to be debated most men mature and grow until they are 21-23 years old. They fil out between the ages of 21-25. The fact he might have grown and inch or two in the years between 16-21 is never spoken of. He could have easily added 2 inches in height and 15 lbs of weight between the ages of 16-20. I know when I was a senior in HS I weighed about 125lbs I was standing at 5'6. By the time I was 22 years I was 5'9 and weighed 145-150lbs. I grew three inches in height and added on about 20-25lbs of muscle I was not fat my friends....Me below at 145lbs

There's no test for it. Which is why it's laughable when they pass these tests. Mosley never tested positive, remember that. Neither did Evander Holyfield.

Mosley name get brought up every time there is a scandal in boxing. The guy made a mistake he admitted it and passed a polygraph. Let ie go...comeon guys...PAC is a FREAK of nature he is determined and focused on teh task at hand. Did you see him walking to the ring against Cotto. he was smiling like he loves his job.....I truly think he loves what he does and it is not all about th emoney for him it is about the people of his country and being the best....Lefty

[rao007]

Yes...they assume wrongly. If they haven't realized it by now, then they'll continue to be surprised. Although that's pretty naive in a sport like boxing where the testing is pathetic and any notable boxing gym is a breeding ground for users.

Then why watch boxing? Or American Football? Because you want to see PED using athletes?

[IMDAZED]

Then why watch boxing? Or American Football? Because you want to see PED using athletes?

I don't care if they do or don't. Obviously most of them do.

[rao007]

I don't care if they do or don't. Obviously most of them do.

Next time you see a KO, guys with great staminas, explosive quickness, and granite chins--attribute it to PEDs.