If You Were Freddie Roach, What's Your Fight Plan Against Pretty Boy?

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  • POUND4POUNDBEST
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    #31
    Originally posted by R.Winky Wright
    Did floyd tell you that, **** he told me that too! but unfortunately this is a post asking you what do you think would be a strategy... unless floyd is interchangeable with god, then I think he's human, and it's all strategy, like he says too.
    the answer to the question is that at 147 or below there is no gameplan that any fighter could have that would work aginst floyd

    the only way floyd looses is if he moves up in weight and has a severe disadvantage in size and still i would not count floyd out

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    • aether
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      #32
      Originally posted by R.Winky Wright
      "If Manny can find opening to make it a fight they he should commit to those chances"

      sounds the same to me...
      i disagree with you that pac should fight floyd's fight. although his boxing has improved, i doubt he can outbox floyd.

      going to him early is a good idea. floyd needs time to figure him out.

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      • R.Winky Wright
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        #33
        Originally posted by aether
        i disagree with you that pac should fight floyd's fight. although his boxing has improved, i doubt he can outbox floyd.

        going to him early is a good idea. floyd needs time to figure him out.
        i think we all can agree when we seize opportunity when it's presented, but also to try to create something that hasn't proven previously to work effectively, not a good idea. I do however agree that he has to turn in it into a barn burner, but, I ask this, have you ever seen floyd tired? have you seen guys try to pressure him by spamming shots, did it work that effectively? That's why I believe that "where the opportunity presents itself is where manny must strike. If he can pressure him to the ropes by slipping and using good foot work cutting off the ring then by all means fight him. If he can't it would be a like a lamb to the slaughter trying to force his way my lunging into a jab or left hook.

        This fight is going to be close, soooo close it will depend upon something in the middle a blend if you will. if many pushes a fight he'll gas going 12 round he needs to balance his offense and work on the things he is worst at to make it a much closer fight.

        and i never said outbox floyd, but he has to close the gap skill wise.
        Last edited by R.Winky Wright; 11-30-2009, 12:09 AM.

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        • NYU Alum.
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          #34
          Originally posted by Talon
          my fight pan is be very careful and be ready to explode any second. don't be mechanical but more organic and smooth like floyd. dont act unconsciously, see first and then react. focus and using your brain is very important. try not to make the same mistake twice. i know this is all very vague

          pac's swarming ability would be great against floyd but first he'd have to get him in a shell, and they would have to be small flurries often. hit and go back to covering up, in long ones he might end up countered. basically dont go for the KO, try to learn floyd, impossible to do in a few minutes but hopefully watching film of him would help.

          i'd say manny's blocking is good enough but he should invest in some better head movement. he should try different things like fighting tall, becoming smaller during the fight. has manny fought any southpaws? floyd can fight southpaw quite well. also i think castillo taught some tips on how to **** with floyd. basically manny's offense is great though he does telegraph sometimes. i think he really needs to worry about his defense. and i think floyd really needs to worry about his offense because manny is hard as a rock right now and knows how to cover up well
          You're right about PAC being a small target. People tend to overlook that. Alot of folks always talk about being bigger is better, well, the lil dude has his advantages as well.

          PAC being a small guy, combined with his agility will not be that easy to find. And yes, he definitely needs to be at his best when it comes to head movement against the sharp-shootin' Floyd.

          One thing I notice about PAC when he has a fighter on the ropes, is he tends to smother his own punches, he needs to fix that, because I think he'll be able to get Floyd Jr against the ropes often enough and he'll need to take advantage of it everytime. Because, I just don't see PAC winning the fight in the middle of the ring.

          Although PAC's jab is virtually non-existent, he'll still need to jab. One way to offset a jabber, is to jab with him.
          Last edited by NYU Alum.; 11-30-2009, 12:29 AM.

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          • R.Winky Wright
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            #35
            Originally posted by LATINOSNOBAYAG
            You're right about PAC being a small target. People tend to overlook that. Alot of folks always talk about being bigger is better, well, the lil dude has his advantages as well.

            PAC being a small guy, combined with his agility will not be that easy to find. And yes, he definitely needs to be at his best when it comes to head movement against the sharp-shootin' Floyd.

            One thing I notice about PAC when he has a fighter on the ropes, is he tends to smother his own punches, he needs to fix that, because I think he'll be able to get Floyd Jr against the ropes often enough and he'll need to take advantage of it everytime. Because, I just don't see PAC winning in the fight in the middle of the ring.

            Although PAC's jab is virtually non-existent, he'll still need to jab. One way to offset a jabber, is to jab with him.
            yeah bro your right on!

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            • rummy
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              #36
              Come prepared to jab all day if you have to!

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              • Pacdbest
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                #37
                Originally posted by Lady Fan
                If you were Freddie Roach, what's your fight plan against Pretty Boy? Is it a good plan and will it work?

                I won't tell mine right now. Floyd camp might counter it.

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                • ThePunchingBag
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                  #38
                  The best strategy would be to keep Manny defensive. Make Mayweather be offensive. It would be hilarious yet boring to watch. Mayweather doesn't do offense. He needs a dance partner. Someone to throw punches at him.

                  If you put Floyd Mayweather Jr's clone in the ring with him, the Compubox numbers would 0 punches thrown, 0 punches landed, and the fight (if you could call it that) would end in a draw.

                  Floyd doesn't come to fight. He comes to play defense.

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                  • Cash Cow
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by joe90210
                    his plan would be to atleast try and make pac look competitive knowing full well that Floyd will embarrass and humiliate him in the ring
                    LMAO!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by thatjamaicanguy

                      Floyd can only box, he can't fight



                      WOW

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