if trinidad didnt cheat..do u think his win/lost record would be different?

[dansweeney]

Tito is a *****, everytime vargas had him on the verge of getting kayo'd he hit him in the balls, and he tried that dirty **** with x too, but x dont play that ****. remember him elbowing hop in the throat over the ropes?

[ottoevans]

the only difference i see is the Reid right, none of Tito's opponents were great boxers. The only boxers he faced were reid, b-hop, oscar. Pernell was old when he faught Tito.

[HayeFan]

You include a derogatory picture of one of my favorite fighters in your avatar, I respond by including a picture of a boxing hairdresser.

Plain and simple. You are running with sharp objects.

My avatar wasn't intended as a direct insult to you. The way Joppy's head inflated post Hopkins was grotesquely cartoonish, it's always made me wince, I just thought it was a cool idea for an avatar, My previous Valero avatar was boring me so I got to it, and hey presto.

That boxing hairdresser is going to humble your ass when he eventually cracks Bell. Remember that? The bet you made against Haye? The bet you refused to stake your sig on and insisted it be for a measly 8000 points or the deal was off? That's confidence for ya.

[IwatchBoxing]

Tito is a *****, everytime vargas had him on the verge of getting kayo'd he hit him in the balls, and he tried that dirty **** with x too, but x dont play that ****. remember him elbowing hop in the throat over the ropes?

Isnt Hopkins a dirty fighter too?

Maybe Vargas was doing good, cause the steroids.

[Run]

My avatar wasn't intended as a direct insult to you.

I know that. And I just wanted to include a picture of the hairdresser in my signature. Thats all.



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[HayeFan]

I know that. And I just wanted to include a picture of the hairdresser in my signature. Thats all.

Oh? and you just happened to change it amidst a vitriol fuelled rant at me? LOL

[Tha Greatest]

That Vargas fight is bull****

Trinidad should've been disqualified!!!!!!!
Imagine gettin hit in the balls by some street fighter and it hurts like a *****, imagine gettin hit in the balls by a ALL OUT punch from Trinidad, Trinidad LOADED up on that shot, he did it intentionally...

Imagine gettin hit in the balls from Trinidad about 4-6 times in a fight, I'm sure that's gonna affect u...

Trinidad also gave Mayorga 2 low blows and BAD ones to...
Trinidad would've beaten Mayorga either way, but Vargas no..

Trinidad should've been disqualified!

[IwatchBoxing]

That Vargas fight is bull****

Trinidad should've been disqualified!!!!!!!
Imagine gettin hit in the balls by some street fighter and it hurts like a *****, imagine gettin hit in the balls by a ALL OUT punch from Trinidad, Trinidad LOADED up on that shot, he did it intentionally...

Imagine gettin hit in the balls from Trinidad about 4-6 times in a fight, I'm sure that's gonna affect u...

Trinidad also gave Mayorga 2 low blows and BAD ones to...
Trinidad would've beaten Mayorga either way, but Vargas no..

Trinidad should've been disqualified!

Hahahaha...some people need help.
I think hes !!!

[HayeFan]

This is a loaded thread. Tito beat a truckload of VERY popular fighters. Those fighters had large fan bases, of course they're going to seize any opportunity they can to discredit the fighter who beat their fighter.

This sort of thread is common, it's in the same vein as 'Is Hopkins a legitimate ATG' or 'Is Roy Jones a fraud'. Grasping at straws in order to make a case against a fighter who has proved themselves time and time again is weak, piss-poor weak.

That's the reason I haven't put forth any kind of argument against this crap, it's been brought up before, many, MANY times, and all it suceeds in doing is generating 20 odd pages of conjecture cut with rumour resulting in no actual concrete conclusion.

[IwatchBoxing]

HayeFan, I completely agree on that.