History Can't Be Changed: Pacquiao Ducked Guzman

[Heru]

Pac was beating better, more proven fighters at all weights.

You just need to stop because it (ducking Joan) was never believable before tonight, and even more so, after tonight.

Did Pac not beat the guy who was considered the best at 122? At worse #2? Did Pac not beat the top 2 guys at 126? did Pac not beat the top 3 guys at 130?

2002 - Super Bantamwieght
Paulie Ayala, Champion

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Oscar Larios
3. Salim Medjkoune
4. Enrique Sanchez
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Willie Jorrin
7. Jose Luis Valbuena
8. Joan Guzman
9. Osamu Sato
10. Yoddamrong Sithyodthong

2006 - Super Featherweight
Title Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Marco Antonio Barrera
3. Joan Guzman
4. Erik Morales
5. Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
6. Rocky Juarez
7. Edwin Valero
8. Vicente Mosquera
9. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
10. Alex Arthur

2007 - Super Featherweight
Title Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Joan Guzman
4. Edwin Valero
5. Humberto Soto
6. Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
7. Alex Arthur
8. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
9. Mzonke Fana
10. Cassius Baloyi

I'll post more as I find them, keep trying to discredit. You can find this at the boxrec encyclopedia btw.

[jboy]

[QUOTE=QUELOQUE;6812888]2002 - Super Bantamwieght
Paulie Ayala, Champion

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Oscar Larios
3. Salim Medjkoune
4. Enrique Sanchez
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Willie Jorrin
7. Jose Luis Valbuena
8. Joan Guzman
9. Osamu Sato
10. Yoddamrong Sithyodthong

2006 - Super Featherweight
Title Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Marco Antonio Barrera
3. Joan Guzman
4. Erik Morales
5. Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
6. Rocky Juarez
7. Edwin Valero
8. Vicente Mosquera
9. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
10. Alex Arthur

2007 - Super Featherweight
Title Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Joan Guzman
4. Edwin Valero
5. Humberto Soto
6. Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
7. Alex Arthur
8. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
9. Mzonke Fana
10. Cassius Baloyi

fixed the highlights for you. where is your joan guzman ranked? below pac's leftovers?

[dainegerous]

Sweet...

Nice Info...

[jrosales13]

2002 - Super Bantamwieght
Paulie Ayala, Champion

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Oscar Larios
3. Salim Medjkoune
4. Enrique Sanchez
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Willie Jorrin
7. Jose Luis Valbuena
8. Joan Guzman
9. Osamu Sato
10. Yoddamrong Sithyodthong

2006 - Super Featherweight
Title Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Marco Antonio Barrera
3. Joan Guzman
4. Erik Morales
5. Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
6. Rocky Juarez
7. Edwin Valero
8. Vicente Mosquera
9. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
10. Alex Arthur

2007 - Super Featherweight
Title Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Joan Guzman
4. Edwin Valero
5. Humberto Soto
6. Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
7. Alex Arthur
8. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
9. Mzonke Fana
10. Cassius Baloyi

I'll post more as I find them, keep trying to discredit. You can find this at the boxrec encyclopedia btw.

Yea does rankings are not right? Ledwaba was not in the top 10 at 122?

You telling me in 2006 JMM was not in the top 10?

Barrera and Morales were not in the top 10 in 2007 at 130?

Yea bro those are not right... There is no discrediting bro. At the time JMM fought these guys they were ranked higher than Guzman...

[Heru]

fixed the highlights for you. where is your joan guzman ranked? below pac's leftovers?

The list I posted was at 122 in 2002, Pacquiao fought Larios at 130 in 2006 and made him come up 2 weight divisions. Sound familiar?

Yea does rankings are not right? Ledwaba was not in the top 10 at 122?

You telling me in 2006 JMM was not in the top 10?

Barrera and Morales were not in the top 10 in 2007 at 130?

Yea bro those are not right... There is no discrediting bro. At the time JMM fought these guys they were ranked higher than Guzman...

So you know I'm not manipulating ****, here's my source, you can find all of em: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...tweight--2000s

[NYU Alum.]

You wanna know why PAC - Guzman never happened ? Because Guzman fans can't even afford a boat ride to watch the fight live, lol

[Doctor_Tenma]

You think Guzman beats Packy?

At 130, 2 years ago, Yes.

[Dondi33O]

On November 20, 2007, José Nuñez, manager of WBO super featherweight champion Joan Guzmán, accused Pacquiao's handler Bob Arum of evading a match between the two boxers to protect Pacquiao. Guzmán went as far as to directly call out Pacquiao at the postfight press conference of the Pacquiao–Barrera rematch in front of a stunned crowd at the Mandalay Bay Events Center's media room in Las Vegas. Manny Pacquiao


The victory keeps Guzman's unbeaten slate to 28-0, 17 KOs, and lines him up for a possible duel with superstar Manny Pacquiao sometime in the near future.

Guzman, who is trained by Floyd Mayweather Sr, has been calling out Pacquiao lately, even personally attending the post-fight press conference of the Pacquiao-Barrera rematch to ask Pacquiao for a fight in front of a stunned crowd at the Mandalay Bay Events Center's media room.

Soto's loss is expected to be a major blow to promoter Bob Arum, according to sources.

"This will surely be a big letdown to Bob. Soto is one of his prime candidates for a Pacquiao opponent. Now Guzman has just solidified his entry into the Pacquiao sweepstakes. Global Nation Inquirer

2002 - Super Bantamwieght
Paulie Ayala, Champion

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Oscar Larios
3. Salim Medjkoune
4. Enrique Sanchez
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Willie Jorrin
7. Jose Luis Valbuena
8. Joan Guzman
9. Osamu Sato
10. Yoddamrong Sithyodthong

2006 - Super Featherweight
Title Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Marco Antonio Barrera
3. Joan Guzman
4. Erik Morales
5. Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
6. Rocky Juarez
7. Edwin Valero
8. Vicente Mosquera
9. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
10. Alex Arthur

2007 - Super Featherweight
Title Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Joan Guzman
4. Edwin Valero
5. Humberto Soto
6. Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
7. Alex Arthur
8. Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
9. Mzonke Fana
10. Cassius Baloyi

Don't push my buttons. There's a lot of ammo yet to be posted.

If that's all you got for your fellow country man I feel for you bud.

[toyi]

True, David Diaz was a huge fight.

In BS history they will judge you as very unpopular and too nationalistic of a poster. I might say you're delusional too.

[Rorschach™]

Pac also ducked:

Salim Medjkoune
Enrique Sanchez
Israel Vazquez
Willie Jorrin
Jose Luis Valbuena
Osamu Sato
Yoddamrong Sithyodthong
Jorge Rodrigo Barrios
Rocky Juarez
Edwin Valero
Vicente Mosquera
Humberto Soto
Alex Arthur
Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
Mzonke Fana
Cassius Baloyi

History can't be changed, Pac ducked everyone, except for the guys that he fought.