History Can't Be Changed: Pacquiao Ducked Guzman

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    #11
    Originally posted by Bogler
    history would forget about joan guzman and would laugh at this ******ed story.
    lol
    Well said.

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      #12
      Originally posted by QUELOQUE
      True, David Diaz was a huge fight.
      I didn't say huge fight. I said different challenges.

      Regardless, an argument can be made that the Diaz fight would have and did make Manny more money. Especially in the long run. Also, it helped him legacy to move up, win another title and continue on with that.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Hard2kill
        Not because you ignored that calling out means you are ducking someone... There's a lot of reasons...

        If Kotelnik calls out Floyd and he ignored him, does it mean Floyd ducking Kotelnik? Think twice.. Why would a superstar fight to an unknown fighter for nothing?
        Guzman was the clear #3 in Pacquiao's own division because he'd just dominated Soto.

        It would be as if Cotto, Margarito, or Williams called out Floyd and he'd avoid them.... Wait.... Resemblance?

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          #14
          Originally posted by QUELOQUE
          Guzman was the clear #3 in Pacquiao's own division because he'd just dominated Soto.

          It would be as if Cotto, Margarito, or Williams called out Floyd and he'd avoid them.... Wait.... Resemblance?
          Pacquiao said he will go up because he was having problem making weight anymore... and tell me, what benefit pacquiao and Arum can get in fighting Guzman instead of Diaz? Pacquiao's path to greatness was already plotted, and the Diaz fight was the gateway to higher weights...

          Top Rank and Pacquiao could get nothing by fighting Guzman... think like a boxer and a business man who runs boxing... do not think like Guzman..

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            #15
            Originally posted by VictoriaBeckham
            You think Guzman beats Packy?
            Does it matter? He chased Pacquiao for 3 rounds, he should've gotten his shot.

            Especially after embarrassing him by pulling a Mosley.
            Originally posted by ..Calderownz...
            I didn't say huge fight. I said different challenges.

            Regardless, an argument can be made that the Diaz fight would have and did make Manny more money. Especially in the long run. Also, it helped him legacy to move up, win another title and continue on with that.
            So you think Pacquiao and his team had the foresight to see Mayweather retiring instead of fighting the De La Hoya rematch and Hatton turning down the De La Hoya fight before Pacquiao?

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              #16
              Originally posted by QUELOQUE
              Does it matter? He chased Pacquiao for 3 rounds, he should've gotten his shot.

              Especially after embarrassing him by pulling a Mosley.


              So you think Pacquiao and his team had the foresight to see Mayweather retiring instead of fighting the De La Hoya rematch and Hatton turning down the De La Hoya fight before Pacquiao?
              I know, but what do you think would happen?

              I think at 130, 3 years ago, Guzman had the style and tools to win.

              Now he would just get rolled. He looked soft in there tonight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ..Calderownz...
                Realistically, Manny went o for bigger fights. Floyd has done it. Oscar has done it. Everyone has done it. It's not ducking if you face other types of honest challenges.
                U might b right but when Floyd does it it's ducking when manny does it it's ok

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                  #18
                  After the rematch with Barrera, everyone wanted Pac to fight Marquez again. And who did he fight after Barrera? Marquez! I wouldn't call it ducking if nobody wanted Pac to fight Guzman.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Hard2kill
                    Pacquiao said he will go up because he was having problem making weight anymore... and tell me, what benefit pacquiao and Arum can get in fighting Guzman instead of Diaz? Pacquiao's path to greatness was already plotted, and the Diaz fight was the gateway to higher weights...

                    Top Rank and Pacquiao could get nothing by fighting Guzman... think like a boxer and a business man who runs boxing... do not think like Guzman..
                    Weight problems? For someone that works out as much as Pacquiao and rehydrated to 147 just like Guzman.

                    Yeah OK, so after the Barrera fight they already had the Marquez rematch lined up even though it was 5 months down the road, right? So if I get a good source saying you're wrong, would you admit it?

                    So you think Pacquiao and his team had the foresight to see Mayweather retiring instead of fighting the De La Hoya rematch and Hatton turning down the De La Hoya fight before Pacquiao?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                      Weight problems? For someone that works out as much as Pacquiao and rehydrated to 147 just like Guzman.

                      Yeah OK, so after the Barrera fight they already had the Marquez rematch lined up even though it was 5 months down the road, right? So if I get a good source saying you're wrong, would you admit it?

                      So you think Pacquiao and his team had the foresight to see Mayweather retiring instead of fighting the De La Hoya rematch and Hatton turning down the De La Hoya fight before Pacquiao?
                      Mayweather has nothing to do with this thread and Guzman was nobody... admit it..

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