Joe Calzaghe's career - is it me or is just highly puzzling?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #11
    Originally posted by Iceta
    The Zag fans are just getting a dose of the truth. His career is faker than the fairy who replaces dollar bills with the kiddie tooth.
    It's so bad, they created a thread where they can let out all their emotions and create a list of people to ban, ignore and red k

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    • Iceta
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      #12
      The thing that made me laugh about Calzaghe and his dad was them eating in an Italian restaurant on 24/7 and Enzo gave his impression of Marlon Brando. They deserve props for that. See, are you guys happy now? I finally said something good about the Calzaghe family.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Songbird
        Im not an expert on calzaghes career but surely if he wasnt fighting his mandatories he would have be stripped of his title?? Your making it sound like he somehow avoided his mandatories, im sure he didnt

        As far as i can see he fought every live body at super
        middle over the years, who else was there for him to fight at super middle? Glen johnson? he was pretty crap at the weight as i remember. Hopkins, he offered him big money to travel but hopkins agreed then asked for double. Jones was always at light heavy. I dont get it when it comes to joe. He just did what lots of guys do. I think him beating hopkins and jones has some people turning in their graves maybe, get over it

        Calzaghe doesnt have the best cv in the world i agree, but its not the worst either and he was happy to sit in wales that was his problem.
        Calzaghe had only one belt for 10 years (1995 - 2005), he never tried to go after the other two belts. This led to him not getting forced as much to fight. He avoided the top five fighters in his weight division for about five to ten years, which kinda of displays some sort of 'ducking'.

        He did not fight everybody in the division as I've posted in my thread starter. In 2004, Glen Johnson knocked out RJJ - instead Calzaghe fought Mger Mkrtchian and Kabary Salem.

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          #14
          I don't think there are any more Calzaghe fans. They all left when he retired it seems. There were atleast 3 guys in here that would talk about him 24/7.

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            #15
            I'm not familiar with the details, but I think Hopkins doubled his asking price back in 2003 after the contract had virtually been agreed upon. I could be wrong though.

            Walterson you should give Joe credit for beating Eubank as well. That was an excellent win.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              I'm not familiar with the details, but I think Hopkins doubled his asking price back in 2003 after the contract had virtually been agreed upon. I could be wrong though.

              Walterson you should give Joe credit for beating Eubank as well. That was an excellent win.
              Yeah I give him credit for that but apparently there was some weight drain issues involved there ...

              What I do have an issue with is the fact he did not chase belts?

              Since he won the WBO he had opportunities to fight for against these listed belt holders

              - Sven Ottke
              - Markus Beyer
              - Christian Sanavia
              - Anthony Mundine

              why didn't he?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Walterson
                Yeah I give him credit for that but apparently there was some weight drain issues involved there ...

                What I do have an issue with is the fact he did not chase belts?

                Since he won the WBO he had opportunities to fight for against these listed belt holders

                - Sven Ottke
                - Markus Beyer
                - Christian Sanavia
                - Anthony Mundine

                why didn't he?
                The germans was as reluctant to travel as Joe was. Plenty of cash to be earned at home and not enough reward considering the risk involved in travelling.

                Also it's my belief that neither Joe nor his handlers was confident in Joes's ability. I think they made a mistake by first very late finding out that Joe was a bona-fide superstar. Joe's legacy suffers accordingly. He should have taken some more chances earlier and pursuing the big fights even if it meant he would have had to travel.

                Boy would I have loved to see Joe kick Ottke's ass in Germany.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Walterson
                  Yeah I give him credit for that but apparently there was some weight drain issues involved there ...

                  What I do have an issue with is the fact he did not chase belts?

                  Since he won the WBO he had opportunities to fight for against these listed belt holders

                  - Sven Ottke
                  - Markus Beyer
                  - Christian Sanavia
                  - Anthony Mundine

                  why didn't he?
                  Sanavia?? who the hell is he, did he have a belt for like a month? Couldnt be bothered to check but i never heard of him. As far as i know calzaghe tried to get ottke on serveral occasions but couldnt, thats what frank warren says anyway if you believe him. He says he completely gave up on ottke. As for beyer, didnt kessler beat him in 3. I cant remember the fight but i think joe would have beat him pretty easy imo.

                  btw where did you get that quote from calzaghe, it doesnt sound like him at all. I think you just dont like calzaghe and will make up nearly anything to vent this out, am i right?

                  Just checked mundine held the wba belt for 6 months in 2004 LOL hardly and established star that joe avoided, GET OUTA HERE
                  Last edited by BirdSong; 11-27-2009, 05:14 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Songbird
                    Sanavia?? who the hell is he, did he have a belt for like a month? Couldnt be bothered to check but i never heard of him. As far as i know calzaghe tried to get ottke on serveral occasions but couldnt, thats what frank warren says anyway if you believe him. He says he completely gave up on ottke. As for beyer, didnt kessler beat him in 3. I cant remember the fight but i think joe would have beat him pretty easy imo.

                    btw where did you get that quote from calzaghe, it doesnt sound like him at all. I think you just dont like calzaghe and will make up nearly anything to vent this out, am i right?


                    Just checked mundine held the wbc belt for 6 months in 2004 LOL hardly and established star that joe avoided, GET OUTA HERE
                    That quote is very legit. I found it a while back. too funny.

                    Oops. Say you're sorry to the guy. Apologize immediately:

                    Joe scare of Roy

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Songbird
                      Sanavia?? who the hell is he, did he have a belt for like a month? Couldnt be bothered to check but i never heard of him. As far as i know calzaghe tried to get ottke on serveral occasions but couldnt, thats what frank warren says anyway if you believe him. He says he completely gave up on ottke. As for beyer, didnt kessler beat him in 3. I cant remember the fight but i think joe would have beat him pretty easy imo.

                      btw where did you get that quote from calzaghe, it doesnt sound like him at all. I think you just dont like calzaghe and will make up nearly anything to vent this out, am i right?


                      Just checked mundine held the wbc belt for 6 months in 2004 LOL hardly and established star that joe avoided, GET OUTA HERE
                      That quote is very legit. I found it a while back. too funny.

                      Oops. Say you're sorry to the guy. Apologize immediately:

                      Joe scared of Roy

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